Re: Internet Trolls
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Lazerath ,,,,,,, they are talking about you..
one day when I drive around the edge of Vegas I will see your face on a billboard with a cat..
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 just put your ear to the ground , and follow along
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Re: Internet Trolls
[Re: DelawareRob]
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Unfortunately, some consider individuals with differing opinions, beliefs, politics than themselves as trolls. Often, these so called 'trolls" make legitimate cases/claims and demand answers. Very often, when the opposing side cannot discredit the accusation or claim, but still believes the narrative they are pushing, then the opposing individual is labeled a troll, conspiracy theorist, kook, lunatic, anti-semite, fascist/Nazi, grifter, cheeto, deplorable, libtard, orange man hater, TDS you name it, etc, no matter which side one is on.
Just because someone whole heartedly disagrees with us does not mean they are a troll. Our job is to discredit them, with facts and truth, and prove to them why their opinion or stance is wrong, if it is indeed wrong. Not to shame them and stop the conversation by belittling them and calling them a troll. Nobody got anywhere by shutting down discourse, the only way forward is to face it. This is very very easy to do if we are on the side of truth, and NOT selling and pushing lies ourselves. Once we start pushing some falsehoods, then we have serious problems.
With that said, there are certainly people on the internet that stir the pot to create chaos. They are most certainly trolls and evil as well. I have zero use for them and they should be shut down, ridiculed, and called out for what they are because a true troll has no legitimate truth backing them. They do it for a very simple reason, and that is to create chaos. Agreed sir. They never accept being discredited, they just throw something else out which is usually the intent to start with, to get the subject next off track. Some of your post is correct, but after awhile your reasoning doesn't work and they're just an annoyance.
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There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Internet Trolls
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Fair point Hippie.
If they are indeed sincere and not a troll, then they will own being discredited by truth and an facts. They will own up to it.
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Re: Internet Trolls
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You might not be far off Mink. I always assume they are at least somewhat narcissistic and might have some oppositional / defiance disorder issues.
I view them as needing constant attention but with little to no self awareness. The good thing about Google is we can increase our knowledge on just about anything. Of course a little knowledge can be dangerous. Here is a list of narcissistic disorders in marriage which can be expanded to business, religion or just about anything. The Four Ds of Narcissism:
#1 Deny: People with NPD often deny pretty much anything that could put them in a negative light. This often comes up in marital arguments when the narcissist goes too far. They say something cruel and uncalled for, and then deny that they ever said that thing, even though their spouse heard it loud and clear. #2 Dismiss: If a narcissist cant outright deny something, then they will just dismiss it, which is like the cousin of denial. Did your NPD spouse spend too much money on sports paraphernalia last week and now youre worried about making that car payment? According to them, youre making a mountain out of a molehill, even if you have financial records showing youre running the risk of going into the red. #3 Devalue: When faced with someone with too much self-confidence, a narcissist gets scared because they secretly dont have any for themselves. In this situation, they will try to devalue their spouse as much as possible. A narcissist will talk down to their spouse to make them doubt themselves and feel less valuable to the relationship. One tactic that they use to do this is to create a new narrative to a situation or argument that allows them to frame it in a way that makes them seem like theyre in the right. #4 Divorce: To get away from a spouse with NPD, the only option is often to divorce them. People who want to divorce a narcissist should not feel guilty, no matter how much their narcissist spouse would love it if they felt guilty every moment of their life. Narcissism inflicts emotional abuse, sometimes unintentionally. No one deserves to live with abuse each day. Protect yourself and your family by filing for divorce if it seems like the right way forward!Of course one could always hope the narcissist will change, good luck with that !
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Re: Internet Trolls
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To get technical, very few true narcissists exist, and it takes a brain scan to reveal. You can't diagnose narcissism by behavior. That's not to say there's not loads of selfish people, but I tire of everything being a condition. That's not realistic, people can change, and very few are are truly suffering from an irreversible condition. Modern psychology is highly suspect, IMO. Jung, it's father, got his ideas from voices in his head. The founder of psychology listened to "demons" and wrote about it. .
Right now Im having amnesia and dj vu at the same time. I think Ive forgotten this before.
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