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Re: For Savell
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
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09/30/25 12:05 PM
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east central WI
k snow
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I would like to hear someone up North's personal opinion on why it was okay to have slaves up north, then haul off and kill southern people over doing the same thing...Take your time. I don't think anyone should ever own anybody as property. I don't think the fed's should trample all over state's rights. There's one Northerner's opinion. We're not all "Yankees".
"in the midst of a savage wilderness to depend entirely upon their unassisted strength and hardihood"
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Re: For Savell
[Re: warrior]
#8478616
09/30/25 12:05 PM
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yotetrapper30
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My opinion is if the south had won, the country would not be in the shape it is today. On the other hand, if the lazy plantation owners had harvested their own crops in the first place, it also wouldn't be in the shape it is today. So there. It's both sides fault.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
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09/30/25 12:07 PM
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Champaign County, Ohio.
KeithC
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I would like to hear someone up North's pesonal opinion on why it was okay to have slaves up north, then haul off and kill southern people over doing the same thing...Take your time. The North had many people who wanted a strong Federal government and wanted to do away with state rights. Slavery was at best, a very minor issue, in most peoples minds. Keith
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Re: For Savell
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
#8478618
09/30/25 12:08 PM
09/30/25 12:08 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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I would like to hear someone up North's personal opinion on why it was okay to have slaves up north, then haul off and kill southern people over doing the same thing...Take your time. Why would u ask a question and expect an answer when you wouldn't reciprocate the same?
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Re: For Savell
[Re: KeithC]
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09/30/25 12:09 PM
09/30/25 12:09 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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Kentucky
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I would like to hear someone up North's pesonal opinion on why it was okay to have slaves up north, then haul off and kill southern people over doing the same thing...Take your time. The North had many people who wanted a strong Federal government and wanted to do away with state rights. Slavery was at best, a very minor issue, in most peoples minds. Keith Very, very true....I respect that honest assessment.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: Yes sir]
#8478622
09/30/25 12:19 PM
09/30/25 12:19 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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I would like to hear someone up North's personal opinion on why it was okay to have slaves up north, then haul off and kill southern people over doing the same thing...Take your time. Why would u ask a question and expect an answer when you wouldn't reciprocate the same? Oh, I didn't expect a answer at all...I gave exactly what I received.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: warrior]
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09/30/25 12:26 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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The difference is I would gave you an answer if you would have answered my question. But for some reason you have reservations about answering mine despite the simplicity of it
Last edited by Yes sir; 09/30/25 12:29 PM.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: warrior]
#8478634
09/30/25 12:38 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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Your looking for the high ground, you won't get that with me....It would have been the same in the 1860's when my ancestors stacked them up like cord wood, despite never owning any slaves.
I would do the same today, and have absolutely no interest in having slaves.....I would entertain honest discussions about the war, but not manufactured narratives.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#8478635
09/30/25 12:39 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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Ain't y'all got nothing better to do than revive a 175 year old war?  Not really, traps are treated and it's 90 degrees here today, Lol.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: warrior]
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09/30/25 12:51 PM
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They'd be part of Mexico if we didn't go down there and slap the Mexicans around after they captured Texas' army. Guess they never could fight very good 
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: warrior]
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09/30/25 01:19 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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Your confusing true high ground with false narratives....The truth can be vigorously defended, and I've done that here before.
Did you have family in this war?
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Re: For Savell
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
#8478663
09/30/25 01:34 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Your confusing true high ground with false narratives....The truth can be vigorously defended, and I've done that here before.
Did you have family in this war? Exactly. So you should be able to answer truthfully and then if I'm incorrect with where I go with it u should be able to debate my position. Asking if u believe slavery is wrong is in no way a false narrative and if it was by your own words it could be shoot down with truth. I dont know if I had any relatives in the civil war
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Re: For Savell
[Re: warrior]
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09/30/25 01:42 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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I know exactly where your coming from, everyone else does too....I said I had absolutely no interest in owning slaves, and that my family never owned slaves.
That should have told you what you needed to know....Now on the other hand you also need to know what really happened so you can form intelligent questions.
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Re: For Savell
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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09/30/25 01:47 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Only 20% to 25% of CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS owned slaves.
So, what were the other 75% to 80% fighting for? One possibility was that a large population of them were economically dependent of the slave system even if they themselves didn't own them.
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