I hear what you are all saying. Farmers are all born with a silver spoon in their mouths. And you don't think its fair that fur is not an important enough commodity to warrant a subsidy. Maybe you should pray for the boll weevil to make a comeback and wipe the cotton out and once again make fur a necessary commodity.

There chew on that a while ! I hear raw meat with a bone in it is replacing todays pacifiers.

I don't think the fur industry should get welfare either.

Like it or not but when your born into a family and set to inherit millions of dollars worth of land I would say yeah that’s being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

That land is like money in the bank you can always fall back on if you need money.

So what is the alternative you would use to keep everyone's head above water? Reagan started the CRP to minimize Carters fiasco. I doubt Russia would be a good substitute for China right now, but with our leadership who knows when or where the art of the deal will pop out. Question is how long will it take to recover China's export business. In the meantime let the subsidies flow !

If you can’t make it as a farmer with out subsidies you should go under. And then go get a job at a factory or somewhere like everyone else who don’t get government hand outs.

You are right! In cheap fur times, sell your traps to help your cash flow!

I don’t trap for a living. Very very very few people do. And even less rely on the price of fur, they get paid for animal removal. Trapping is just like hunting or fishing, it’s a past time, something to do that you like. So your comparison is just dumb.

Maybe not so dumb. Trapping in the past has been a way of life. We have observed it fading away. Farming is a way of life. People make their living and raise their kids on it. We saw the family farm gutted in the 80's due to incompetent leadership. So why is the two not related, just off on the timing ?

If farmer's paid the equivalent property tax as everyone else and if our government fed and state went to a flat tax, that's called treating all equal.Why is one group of people being being catered to, my truck is a work vehicle. Zero tax deduction my diesel equipment no tax deduction/ full price for fuel. Please anyone explain how that's fair.

its not fair. i know a farmer that has told me several times that he could get a brand new truck every year if he wanted too and write it off in taxes. he doesn't, he is a more conservative farmer. he does take govt subsidies but he doesn't waste his money on needless things and lives more conservatively. and he has alot of money in the bank (millions) and millions in land.

if your a carpenter, welder, mechanic, plumber, etc. if you cant make a living doing any of those you get a different job. you don't get any government handouts, lower taxes, or any of the benefits farmers get.

i don't hate farmers. lol i just get sick of hearing them complain and hearing people talk about how the poor farmers have it so rough. out of all the physical labor type jobs out there i would love to be a farmer. but there is no way to become a farmer in this day in age without being born into it or being rich enough to buy land and such.

I agree, but would still like to hear how people think it equal to all,

For starters please give a specific example where farmers get to pay less on comparable property tax?

I no there's vacant land here that people pay taxes on that's worth next to nothing and farm ground in the same square mile that's worth 8-10 k per acre the one that isn't farmed at least 20 x more in taxes for the same amount. Even the assesser here says the farmers are getting off dirt cheap and there's nothing that he can do. Says it's the government and farm bureau, the farmers pay zero property tax on there machinery which carried over too there lawn mowers etc.

Here you go ive got a 56x28 ranch style house with a 36x28 garage built in 2007 on 5 acres.my neighbor has a older 2 story house that has been completely gutted and remodeled inside and out a 50x 28 garage that's only 7 years old 3 grain bins a 120x60ft machine shed brand new tin within the last 5 years a 60x 80 cattle shed new within the last 10 years a couple older outbuildings still in very good condition plus a 100 acres his assessed value is only 27,000 more then mine hes got 95 more acres then me worrh at least 8,000 a acre on the low side.take 95 x 8,000is 760,000 not including the buildings and house.Farmland gets taxed a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) of alot cheaper at least here in Illinois.

farmers around here pay roughly $18 to $21 an acre. i just figure a $20 average. not sure what other parts of the state pay or other states but thats what the farmers around here pay. easy to look up here, we have a gis map system and you can look up all there taxes and what they paid for the property and everything.

That’s a whole lot of assumption there bud. Like shaming DT Jr for being DT’s son. You understand how much federal and state tax each farmer pays in, as self employed? Understand anything about estate taxes and what it takes to keep what your family has worked generations to build?!

Go “buy land and such” and let your so called subsidies pay for it. According to your theory it’s an easy way to get rich . Are you a little girl? Because you’re whining like one.

no assumption there. i know lots of farmers and talk to lots of farmers. and in indiana there is no estate tax so when your parents die and the farm comes to you you pay no taxes on it. so yes i do know more than you

if your born into a family farm your born rich. every farmer i know has millions of dollars worth of land. tell me thats not rich?