My Sis is flying to Fla and says they may be driving back if the FAA cancels flights. Is this because of the govt shutdown and is it really necessary? Are air traffic controllers federal employees?

Air traffic controllers are Federal Employees. Our local guys and gals are working for free right now.

Didn't they make ATC a special category with "No strike/layoffs" Clauses?

Those dudes are prolly wise enough to have a back up plan ....till the back pay starts rolling in

"b. Use of sick leave: Sick leave cannot be granted for rest, minor inconvenience or in place of
annual leave. However, an employee who becomes ill or injured while on approved annual leave may
substitute sick leave (see LWS-8.1, paragraph 11a). Employees must provide sufficient information
why sick leave is needed so the manager can determine whether the requested leave can be
granted. Failure to provide adequate information will result in denial of the leave. Evidence of frequent
unscheduled and/or questionable use of sick leave without medical documentation may result in the
employee being placed under the terms of a leave restriction and/or charges of absence without
leave (AWOL), and/or failure to follow leave requesting procedures. In accordance with the guidelines
outlined in the Human Resource Policy Manual (HRPM), Volume 8: Leave and Work Schedules, any
absence that is not approved will be charged as AWOL."

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The democrats are hoping to use the fear of Thanksgiving travel flights being cancelled to force the Republicans to fund illegal aliens and foreign programs the democrats steal money from and get kickbacks from.

Keith

Shoemr still thinks it's OK to use tax payer funds to provide everything under the sun to illegals........are there any dems on here that agree with this ?

The law that requires ER's to treat any and all patients is the EMTLA signed into law in 1986.

P.S. Hospitals will still have to treat illegals, but hospitals will have to pass the cost on to people who pay their bills instead of taxpayers who required them to provide the service under EMTLA.

It goes far beyond ER visits. My wife is a medical Provider. If it wasnt for Medicaid ER visits after 5:00 PM would be very rare.

Well Gary Medicaid is a State run Federally funded program. Each State can provide more services if they want, but may have to use State funds.

About 2 million illegals gone already, only 28 million to go, that should help.

Majo bummer for us. About everything goes through Ted Steven’s in Anchorage SeaTac.

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"Reagan fires 11,000 striking air traffic controllers, Aug. 5, 1981
Aug 5, 2017 - On this day in 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers who had ignored his order to return to work. The sweeping mass firing of federal employees slowed commercial air travel, but it did not cripple the system as the strikers had forecast."

Bring in the Air Force controllers.

Look at all the jet fuel that will be saved ... Should lower the price of gasoline and diesel.. Remember the fuel prices days after 911 when planes couldn't fly???

Where is anyone seeing anything about airports shutting down? All I am seeing is a gradual reduction in the number of flights to eventually reach 10% fewer flights.....

Yep....
They arent working for no pay, just delayed pay. Suck it up, Buttercup....

"The federal government's response to Covid-19 has allowed millions of Americans to defer payments on their mortgages, rent, student loans and utility bills."

And if the bill collectors are after you, Uncle Sugar Pops could help you out.

That’s what I have read. Someone have a link of articles about a true shutdown of airports in America?

Only thing I can say about that is it sure does suck when your child support is set up on a payroll deduction ( makes for easy record keeping) , but now you're working without pay until a CR or budget is passed. I could usually get my debt holders to deal with me, but not so much an ex-spouse. Between gas getting to work , groceries , and utilities ...it certainly sucked.