Here’s a good discussion updating the current state of the drive for Alberta independence

Cuz people were asking,,,,,,

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/rSs4TJMt4mg?si=4pi2FfHWuF6Gyu0P[/video]

Saskatchewan and Manitoba are right there with them.

Saskatchewan and Manitoba are not “right there with them”

Saskatchewan may be a wee bit closer,,,, but far from being right there,,,

Manitoba isn’t even in the discussion

After a successful Alberta independence referendum,,,, that would all change I’m certain

But that’s not what it’s about

Alberta has some impressive natural resources. Sounds like moving toward a sovereign nation? Push back from both Canadian and U.S. government will be immense.

The video ( a lot of it) reminds me of Festivus" airing of grievances". Does it ever discuss the Clarity Act?

You're obviously a lot closer to the situation than I am so I am not going to argue with you, but I have spent a lot of time in Manitoba, Sask and Ontario, and everyone I've met who lives outside the larger cities in Manitoba and Sask and everyone in Northwest Ontario are soooo ready to cut themselves off from being yanked around by the urban liberals.

Same can be said about the rural people of most states, especially New York......jk

I’ve lived 46 of my 50 years in rural Saskatchewan. If people you talk to in Saskatchewan are tired of being yanked around by the urban liberals you’ve been talking to very uneducated folk. Urban Saskatchewan is governed by the same conservatives in Saskatchewan that us rural folks are. They’ve been in power since 2007. My social circle is ranchers, grain farmers, tradespeople mostly and I’ve never even once heard anyone discuss separation.

Too messy for CA US relations. Won't happen. Rural Southern NJ was going to succeed from urban northern NJ and it was so close it was just about to happen for years. Never did. There isn't a legal.mechanism in place for it to happen. So CA will.jist say no and it's dead.

Dirt,,, grievances generally are the leading cause of divorce

The Alberta independence movement isn’t about liberal vs conservative. Actual conservatives are few and far between in Canada

Canadain confederation is completely broken,,,

If in today’s world,,,if all the provinces were asked too join a confederation,,under the way its currently set up

No one would join

Alberta certainly wouldn’t

No doubt Canada has issues but many other Countries have them too including our neighbour to the South.

For most people (regardless of the Country), it is all about decent wages and being able to put food on the table.

Dividing a Country is never the answer in my opinion. We need to hold our politicians accountable for their lack of action.

Can include Eastern WA and Eastern OR in the states with rural folks unhappy about being ruled by urbanite liberals

Sounds like Alberta is going to get thrown a bone later this week,,,

People are getting worried

I think there is a lot more support for separation then one is led to beleive by our much trusted media. I run around with much of the same demographics as rvsask except you can add oilfield workers and most ir not all are in support of us going our own way. Some are supportive of becoming a state. While this may be a option I prefer to go our own way and make our own destiny.

I've got it on pretty good authority that separation is going to be discussed at the UCP AGM this weekend. Fingers crossed we'll have our referendum this spring which I think might be a little late because Carney is dangling pipeline carrot to the west coast which I suspect will appease the fence sitters.

Interesting times. Back in the 80"s we had a strong independence movement and I suspect this one is even stronger.

It’s totally being throttled by the government funded media

Couple weeks ago we had thousands and thousands of people on the steps of the provincial capital building

The news chopper circled for 20 minutes,,,, zero coverage on the evening news

10 transvestites show up on the steps of the capital and they get 4 minutes of coverage every night for 3 days straight

Canada is a old country and historically all old countries splinter of into smaller groups. We are also very diverse from coast to coast with varying needs from region to region. It is infuriating that a potato farmer in PEI dictates what a wheat farmer in Saak does. Or one province is exempt from some of the agreement under the confederation then stands in line to collect equalization payments.

I'm pretty sure the equalization payments are what pisses Albertans off most. However, before oil , wasn't Alberta on the receiving end? Mind you, we are lucky our oil monetary surpluses go into State savings fund, and I believe equalization payments just reward bad behavior in the long run.

P.S. If you look at current recipients of payments, you can see why" Friendly "Manitoba is not in the secessionist discussion.

able 1 – Equalization Payments, 2024–2025
Province $ Millions $ Per Capita % of Total Revenue
Manitoba 4,352 3,109 19.4
Ontario 576 38 0.3
Quebec 13,316 1,545 8.9
New Brunswick 2,897 3,629 21.9
Nova Scotia 3,284 3,252 20.7
Prince Edward Island 610 3,718 19.4
Newfoundland and Labrador 218 412 2.1

Dirt equalization is a big one and a federal government that wants to shut down our livelihood. Couple that with other provinces blocking access to foriegn markets. It is far from a recipe for success and prosperity.

It is funny how suicidal voters are. They want your money, but they don't like how you make it and will destroy the money flow. You ever hear of a place called ANWR?

Canada is in serious trouble,,,,,, has been for awhile

Private property rights in BC are now up in the air

No private companies are going to invest in a pipeline to the coast,,,,,, without serious government funding

The whole thing is going to blow up spectacularly

Literally,,,,not figuratively