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Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8508970
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There is no reason to innovate when you have cheap labor, the decades of illegal labor have stifled innovation, a problem that is currently being solved by robotics, Ai, etc

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8508975
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How would less beef being processed bring the price down?

Less supply of any product traditionally means higher prices for that product on the market?


And would any of yall complaining about beaverpeeler hiring migrant workers go to work picking berries for him...and if so what pay woulld you want?

What do you think is a "fair" wage for Americans?


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8508976
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
There is no reason to innovate when you have cheap labor, the decades of illegal labor have stifled innovation, a problem that is currently being solved by robotics, Ai, etc


True


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Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8508977
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I have no affinity for Tyson but there is zero chance Americans will line up to cut meat if we deport all of the illegals. Some, maybe. But not all or even close.

It would cut into their internet time--among many other reasons.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Blaine County] #8509005
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
I have no affinity for Tyson but there is zero chance Americans will line up to cut meat if we deport all of the illegals. Some, maybe. But not all or even close.

It would cut into their internet time--among many other reasons.


Advocate for legal alternatives like bringing back the Bracero Program. Don't advocate for looking the other way for lawbreakers. It distorts our job market and incentivizes immoral behavior.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509008
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More laborers is easy. End welfare.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: danny clifton] #8509009
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
More laborers is easy. End welfare.


Many people on welfare ( actually most have jobs ) However, if these people even existed would they make good workers ( actually perform solid hard work)?


Who is John Galt?
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509024
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Capitalism would correct things and build. Socialism will continue to destroy.


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Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509025
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…. If weren’t for all the immigration… we wouldn’t have so many mouths to feed

…. I’m sure we’d manage


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509036
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Pa. has so many on Welfare, SSI and Medicaid that most are able bodied folks. Just lazy and know how to work the system.

We could fill all those vacant Tyson positions pretty quickly if these folks had to resort to full time employment. Problem is many choose a life of crime instead to supplement their steady Govt income.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509059
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“If you want to help poor people, the first thing you should do is NOT create huge financial incentives for them to stay poor.”

Thomas Sowell

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Bob Jameson] #8509067
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
Pa. has so many on Welfare, SSI and Medicare that most are able bodied folks. Just lazy and know how to work the system.

We could fill all those vacant Tyson positions pretty quickly if these folks had to resort to full time employment. Problem is many choose a life of crime instead to supplement their steady Govt income.

Bob, can you point me to real, bonified statistics that support your claims?
Or are those things you say just your un-researched opinion?


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: alaska viking] #8509069
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
Pa. has so many on Welfare, SSI and Medicare that most are able bodied folks. Just lazy and know how to work the system.

We could fill all those vacant Tyson positions pretty quickly if these folks had to resort to full time employment. Problem is many choose a life of crime instead to supplement their steady Govt income.

Bob, can you point me to real, bonified statistics that support your claims?
Or are those things you say just your un-researched opinion?

Can do you one better, come to st cloud mn and I'll take you to apartment buildings where you can watch men stand around all day, day after day.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: beaverpeeler] #8509072
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Food processing plants typically employ a lot of migrant workers. Once they're all run off who will do that work?


… you ought to just move to south or Central America instead of insisting on bringing them here …since you seem to be more into their culture than your own

… that’s right ! lol


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Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509074
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The reason it's shutting down is because they can't get the cattle numbers to keep the plant profitable.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509082
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I have worked in a 4 county radius for many years. I have seen and interacted with several hundred of people in that category. Some I came to know fairly well over time.

A friend of mine worked and managed 3 offices of our State Dept of Public Welfare . She kept me abreast of such things.

Currently Pa. has 3 million or more on welfare, snap and medicaid recipients. Nearly 24% of our state population receives these state and federal benefits.

This represents millions of dollars paid out annually. This has been going on in our state for family generations for some of these folks. Many of these could work if they had too.

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