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Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509101
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On one hand we don't have enough workers and the other AI will replace many jobs. Also we can't forget the robots that will be coming on line. If we deported every person here illegally and cut off all Gov. help for the able bodied I think we would find out what's what.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509106
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A lot of the meat at the Prestage plant at Eagle Grove is cut by robotics.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509107
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All the illegal aliens that loose their jobs there can get a CDL and keep on trucking.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509118
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why do you think we need china owned tyson? illeagal workers?we dont ! tons of small bussiness meat packers not allowed to sell there product because bureaucracy usda restrictions....get rid of the illeagals ...foreign meat packers and burearocrats and let americians go to work.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509131
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It’s not a secret we need immigration to keep an increasing population to further the Capitalist system. But the population shouldn’t be supplemented by illegal immigration. Since when did anything ‘illegal’ stop being bad?

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Leroy Bob] #8509133
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
It’s not a secret we need immigration to keep an increasing population to further the Capitalist system. But the population shouldn’t be supplemented by illegal immigration. Since when did anything ‘illegal’ stop being bad?


…. Maybe that system is the problem?

… I don’t want to be replaced by 3rd world low iq people

… won’t be any semblance left of what was created when they take over


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Savell] #8509134
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
It’s not a secret we need immigration to keep an increasing population to further the Capitalist system. But the population shouldn’t be supplemented by illegal immigration. Since when did anything ‘illegal’ stop being bad?


…. Maybe that system is the problem?

… I don’t want to be replaced by 3rd world low iq people

… won’t be any semblance left of what was created when they take over


I don’t disagree. At least with legal immigration there’s a screening process and we can weed out the lemons.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Dirt] #8509136
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"The Congressional Budget Office now projects the U.S. fertility rate will average just 1.6 births per woman over the next three decades, well short of the 2.1 needed for a stable population.

Experts warn that this demographic shift will contribute to an aging population, shrink the workforce, and strain public programs designed to support seniors."

What is the purpose of a stable population?

What would be wrong with a downsized population?

What was wrong with our population when it was just 250,000,000? I do not see the population stability imperative. I see no reason why we can’t build from within or just don’t build.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509137
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…. Poland doing just fine


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509138
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What was wrong with a population of a mere 220 million? I seem to remember that.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509141
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Would be a horrible shame if foriegn aid went away and the money spent on social security instead.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509142
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Les, is right, we don't need a huge population. We will need even less people in the future with AI and other advancements. Most of the people coming from third world countries have neither the nuture or nature to make them of benefit to us. In many cases, their next generation won't be any more useful.

We need good immigrants, not useless or barely useful ones. The US is in a position to be highly selective, because so many people want to come here. We should take only the best and ban the rest.

Keith

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Savell] #8509144
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
It’s not a secret we need immigration to keep an increasing population to further the Capitalist system. But the population shouldn’t be supplemented by illegal immigration. Since when did anything ‘illegal’ stop being bad?


…. Maybe that system is the problem?

… I don’t want to be replaced by 3rd world low iq people

… won’t be any semblance left of what was created when they take over


I don't think that system is the problem. I think we have a need to import LEGAL Mescins to pick beaverpeelers strawberries. But anyone hiring illegal Mescins, such as beaverpeeler, should be buried under the prison.... the illegals wouldn't come if no one would hire them.


Proudly banned from the NTA.

Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: KeithC] #8509145
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Les, is right, we don't need a huge population. We will need even less people in the future with AI and other advancements. Most of the people coming from third world countries have neither the nuture or nature to make them of benefit to us. Their next generation won't be any more useful.

Keith


… it sounds Almost as if you think all people aren’t created equal through historical observation

… ought to be ashamed of yourself


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Savell] #8509150
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by KeithC
Les, is right, we don't need a huge population. We will need even less people in the future with AI and other advancements. Most of the people coming from third world countries have neither the nuture or nature to make them of benefit to us. Their next generation won't be any more useful.

Keith


… sounds like racism…. Almost as if you think all people aren’t created equal through historical observation

… ought to be ashamed of yourself


Many ethnicities aren't on average as competent as people from Western Europe. There's at least some competent people in most ethnicities. There's some incompetent people of Western European heritage too. The smart thing is to take the best that apply, regardless of ethnicity. When selecting the best, culture and values plays a huge part in determining who is the best fit.

Some people would call me a racist, but I honestly don't care what people I don't respect think about me. It would make no sense to do so.

Keith

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509152
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Racist is becoming a word that liberals use to try to control the behavior of people weak enough mentally to give in to false beliefs, for fear of being ostracized.

Keith

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Savell] #8509166
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
It’s not a secret we need immigration to keep an increasing population to further the Capitalist system. But the population shouldn’t be supplemented by illegal immigration. Since when did anything ‘illegal’ stop being bad?


…. Maybe that system is the problem?

… I don’t want to be replaced by 3rd world low iq people

… won’t be any semblance left of what was created when they take over

We don’t need replacement people but Joe Citizen doesn’t pull the strings and before you know it,there’s random replacement people everywhere to meet the shorterm needs of the very wealthy and careless rich businessmen.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8509193
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… we all gonna end up piebalds


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: KeithC] #8509203
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Les, is right, we don't need a huge population. We will need even less people in the future with AI and other advancements. Most of the people coming from third world countries have neither the nuture or nature to make them of benefit to us. In many cases, their next generation won't be any more useful.

We need good immigrants, not useless or barely useful ones. The US is in a position to be highly selective, because so many people want to come here. We should take only the best and ban the rest.

Keith


Serious questions: what do you do that's useful? Are you gainfully employed full-time? How do you earn money and contribute to society? Are you on any form of assistance or disability benefits?

All I see you do is cut and paste useless trivia on Tman.

Re: Tyson closing beef plant [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8509207
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Blaine County
I have no affinity for Tyson but there is zero chance Americans will line up to cut meat if we deport all of the illegals. Some, maybe. But not all or even close.

It would cut into their internet time--among many other reasons.


Advocate for legal alternatives like bringing back the Bracero Program. Don't advocate for looking the other way for lawbreakers. It distorts our job market and incentivizes immoral behavior.


I advocate for no welfare and people who work. Including fake disability welfare.

I would deport any and all deadbeat lazy Americans and any and all deadbeat illegals.

Those who work hard can stay. That's what I would support.

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