It only shines to the ladies and feeble old men who are scared of recoil

I tend to agree with that, Wanna Be. The 308, 270, 25-06, amongst many more, are all still relevant and very capable rounds.

Last thing I will say towards the new round fad. I wish folks would get the idea that they are going to take game at great distances out of their heads. That would go along way in these new rounds being so sought after. Hunters and snipers are two different things.

Shoot I'm 28 and hate recoil

If limited to factory ammo for the 6.5 Creedmore, what brand, type and weight would be best for southern whitetail.

I dont get into ballistics info much and know next to nothing about handloading. But, Ive heard so many bad stories about lost/almost lost deer to the 6.5 CM in my area that it is shocking. Some of these deer I have seen (after they were finally found) and they were hit where it appeared perfectly. Most were pass throughs. What gives?

Folks here have been selling their 6.5 CMs as fast as they could for a couple years now.

Someone needs to explain to me how everyone and there mom in the South kills deer with .243's but then deer magically become bullet proof and un killable with something shooting a bigger bullet going about as fast ?

Someone needs to explain to me how everyone and there mom in the South kills deer with .243's but then deer magically become bullet proof and un killable with something shooting a bigger bullet going about as fast ?

Someone needs to explain to me how everyone and there mom in the South kills deer with .243's but then deer magically become bullet proof and un killable with something shooting a bigger bullet going about as fast ?

Funny how that works. 70 years and nobody really questioned the .243 for deer.

I think a lot of younger 6.5 shooters over estimate their abilities (not necessarily the cartridges abilities).

And I think a lot of the 6.5 “train wrecks” are wildly exaggerated by older boomers packing .30-06s and 1911s. Two world wars!

I surely dont know either, but there is something amiss about the 6.5 CM.

Wellll that's factually false a lot of the new cartridges , buy the numbers are more efficient and do thing the other won't out the box ... Now a lot of those are cutting hair and it may be just the fact that newer stuff does it right out the box where you'd need to go custom with a older cartridge or newer will work better for this or that but still.

It's like how I got a .22 creed barrel coming in right now . Yeah you can say all day that .22-250 CAN do everything the .22 creed can...but the deal is ... How much do I need to do to the legacy to make it work like the new out of the box. Get a custom barrel spun up that's 3-8 weeks for most places or I just went to shaw and drop $250 and boom were here

There's also th discussion of case and chamber design being more efficient and all ( because along now the never stuff are just going ahead and doing some of the things that end up getting done when folks " improve a cartridge) but honestly for the average guy ...eghhhh

And I mean yeah if you have a smith and load or you just want a pretty generic performance set it's kinda a whatever deal. But to say the new stuff doesn't do anything different is just factually false even if it's as simple as " this new stuff is the easy button"

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Well, name me “one” thing ANY new caliber can do better than any older caliber when it comes to taking game? With today’s bullets everything is new again. Same with shotguns and TSS. My 20ga is now the same as a 12ga for turkeys. I can shoot 110gr Varmageddons in my .308 and take out hogs and coyotes or I can load up 165gr and take out hogs and coyotes. With the 110’s I get some serious range with no holdover out to 300yds…actually it was 297, but close enough. I’ve got my .243 87gr VMax the same way. Unfortunately I won’t ever get to shoot that far where I hunt, but if I ever found myself in that situation I could.
Now tell me how a 6.5 or 22creed or ARC is going to perform any better? Name anything they do better other than what they say on paper. I talk to a lot of guys that have the “fad cartridges” and they’re flat honest about performance. Basically it performs just like the old cartridges, but just sounds so much cooler. They also switch back and forth to their old tried and trues. These are also hunters, not target shooters.
I realize you like to play around with new stuff and it’s always “better” but they’ve yet to prove anything. A caliber/bullet is only as good as the person with his finger on the trigger. A new caliber doesn’t make a better marksman or kill any better than the older calibers.