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Election In The Bible #8527353
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… was raised in a church that claimed people who go to heaven were elected by God to do so before they were born

… claimed some people can’t answer the knock on the door or what have you

… which scriptures support this ?


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527356
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Sounds like a fish


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527358
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Give Mark June a call, he'd have a answer for you right quick.

Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527359
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I don’t know,but I hadn’t ever heard of that election belief before tonight…


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527368
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Calvinism... you pot stirring, Savell?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527371
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… no sir … that was what was taught at the church I went to 3 days a week growing up

… my uncle was the preacher…. I just don’t remember the scripture that backed it up


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Election In The Bible [Re: PAskinner] #8527372
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Calvinism... you pot stirring, Savell?

On this we agree. 100% Calvinism.


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527374
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And yes, he is....


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527376
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Originally Posted by Savell
… no sir … that was what was taught at the church I went to 3 days a week growing up

… my uncle was the preacher…. I just don’t remember the scripture that backed it up


Cause there isn't. Lol
I know trolling when I see it ,bud. Lol


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527377
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They like to read only the middle section of Romans 9, and misinterpret what it's about.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Election In The Bible [Re: PAskinner] #8527378
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
They like to read only the middle section of Romans 9, and misinterpret what it's about.


… what does it say … in a discussion with my wife over it is why I’m asking


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527380
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I believe there's multiple scriptures that can be taken in the context that supports the predestination believe. Myself believes its more that God knows the future and knows the choice each person will make prior to them making it.

Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527382
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I understand that God would that all would be saved.
But free will gives us the ability to botch God's desire.
Just as most parents desire is for there children to be good peaple.
That doesn't always work out. That darn free will.


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Giant Sage] #8527383
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
I understand that God would that all would be saved.
But free will gives us the ability to botch God's desire.
Just as most parents desire is for there children to be good peaple.
That doesn't always work out. That darn free will.



1 Timothy 2:4: "who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth".

It would seem contradictory that if He desires all to be saved, that they would have no opportunity to be

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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527385
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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527388
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Originally Posted by Savell
… was raised in a church that claimed people who go to heaven were elected by God to do so before they were born

… claimed some people can’t answer the knock on the door or what have you

… which scriptures support this ?


If you were raised in it ...wouldn't you know the Scriptures supporting that ? Why are you asking lay folk who most don't support Calvinism ? Something ain't squaring.


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527391
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We all deserve judgment but we have a choice to receive God's grace through Jesus.


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8527392
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by Savell
… was raised in a church that claimed people who go to heaven were elected by God to do so before they were born

… claimed some people can’t answer the knock on the door or what have you

… which scriptures support this ?


If you were raised in it ...wouldn't you know the Scriptures supporting that ? Why are you asking lay folk who most don't support Calvinism ? Something ain't squaring.

Maybe hes looking for a reason not to participate

Re: Election In The Bible [Re: Savell] #8527393
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True dat


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Re: Election In The Bible [Re: amspoker] #8527396
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
I understand that God would that all would be saved.
But free will gives us the ability to botch God's desire.
Just as most parents desire is for there children to be good peaple.
That doesn't always work out. That darn free will.



1 Timothy 2:4: "who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth".

It would seem contradictory that if He desires all to be saved, that they would have no opportunity to be

But there is opportunity. It's a choice.


Christ is King
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