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Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8526894
12/19/25 06:13 AM
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Never heard of that. Interesting.

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Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8526899
12/19/25 06:20 AM
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Apparently its called "fuel dilution".

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Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8526901
12/19/25 06:22 AM
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Fuel dilution see 5:37

Basically fuel gets into your oil now and burns off when your engine gets to temp and you run it. You aren't getting up to to temp and running it enough to burn it off.

Now that your oil is changed seems like you should let your car warm up before you drive to work and let the drive to work burn the gas out of the oil. Block heater, heated garage, other ideas maybe but thats whats happening. Good luck.

p.s. I would guess a diesel motor wouldn't have that problem.

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Re: Direct injection [Re: OhioBoy] #8527537
12/20/25 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Apparently its called "fuel dilution".

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Exactly

And yes, running it hot burns it off. I've learned a lot since last years nightmare. It's going ok this year, but the remedy is a pain. Hopefully others on here can read this thread & not have to learn the hard way.

Letting the vehicle warm up idling though would not help my problem. We had that debate at the dealership. That's what the service advisor told me to do. The service manager & a worker there told me do not make a habit of letting it idle more than say 30 seconds before taking off.

People that drive enough don't need to worry about this problem. I'm the rare situation--driving <4k miles per year. The manufacturers don't design them nowadays for short trippers like me.

Maybe getting a diesel would have been a solution. That's 1 idea I hadn't considered.

Last edited by AJE; 12/20/25 01:07 AM.
Re: Direct injection [Re: loosegoose] #8527542
12/20/25 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by AJE
Here's my gauge. I wonder if anywhere between the 185 & 210° line is fine

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That gauge is just a fancy idiot light. If you were to watch engine coolant temp on a scan tool, you'd see that the temp shown on the gauge is only loosely related to the actual coolant temp. Manufacturers do that because the coolant temp can swing between 205-225(ish) with the cycling of the fans and most people would get nervous watching their gauge cycle back and forth if it showed actual coolant temp.

I haven't seen any proof of that being an issue. It could be true, but ever since I started watching my temp gauge last year, I haven't had an issue. I wait to turn the heater on until the truck is at proper operating temperature. Granted I do other things too now, such as using a block heater, parking in a garage & sometimes taking the long way home. It's amazing how much the heater/defroster effects the coolant temperature. In the rare situation now where my temperature gauge doesn't reach optimal temperature well before I get to work, I put on a ~couple extra miles before stopping. Watching the temp gauge was perhaps the best advice the dealer gave me.

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Re: Direct injection [Re: Line Jumper] #8534090
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Originally Posted by Line Jumper
New vehicles suck, direct injection sucks, small displacement turbo engines suck, the only thing better is they don’t seem to rust out so fast. They are designed to start, warm up a minute or two then drive long distances. Not everybody wants that, for 15years I drove 2 mile each way to work, had a 2003 Tacoma let warm up a few minutes drove to work and shut it off. The heater was completely off so the engine warmed up some, but tried to drive it on weekend longer to burn the gas up in the oil. I’m retired now, still have the truck but have spent probably a hundred hours welding on the frame to keep it going. Sorry this is happening AJE, I remember you researched the heck out of trucks before buying one.

Thanks. I think I'm ok with the turbo. One of the hardest parts is dealing with the moisture issue in my cab from not running the heater enough.

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Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8534206
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Ya, I forgot to mention you need to dress warm and leave a window cracked. Kind of like the best way to keep the windshield clear in a truck plowing snow or in a snowstorm is make sure it’s just as cold inside the cab as it is outside.

Re: Direct injection [Re: AJE] #8534210
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Most diesel mechanics recommend NO short trips if you own a diesel of any type.

And there is more maintenance for diesel engines. More filters, more oil, etc.

Re: Direct injection [Re: 3togo] #8534364
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The last engine AJE should have is a diesel. I love diesels - but I have a OCD when it comes to maintenance on them - they get the best fuel additive, batteries, oil and filters that I can buy plus they get driven like a diesel should. No short cuts.

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