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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Leroy Bob] #8540694
01/09/26 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
So reckless driving is punishable by the death penalty?

No matter which side you're on, this might be the dumbest comment yet.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540697
01/09/26 08:00 AM
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She was interfering with LE acting in a lawful manner enforcing the law. She was breaking the law. Did she need killing? I would hate to be on a jury that decides this one.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540701
01/09/26 08:05 AM
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https://youtu.be/AdgEsZc27zs?si=sDgvFuAYwkapPJzi

The car was coming at the agent in front of it he shot her. Watch the whole video of the incident.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Marty B] #8540704
01/09/26 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty B
Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
The Liberal media will not report any of this.



There are fake accounts from all sides, that will run any lie they want.


You literally cant believe anything.

50 to 60% of the accounts on social media are bots driving an agenda.



THIS!!!
Yet both “teams” think their side is pushing the truth. lol
Let’s not forget about paid influencers too.

X for example is out of control pushing division. There’s really no point in even going on out anymore unless you’re fine with never seeing content from anyone you follow because all you see are the blue check mark “people”.

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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540710
01/09/26 08:13 AM
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The fact that on a forum such as this relative to all the other sport, hobbies and interest in this world and this is being debated at all kinda blows my mind. Actions have consequences. She made premeditated decisions over days, hours, minutes and seconds to put her in that final situation. The officer had seconds to react for his safety and those around him and he acted. Period. This lady was trained to interfere prior to, made a decision to go where they were and antagonize and then disobeyed orders.

If we can’t stand strong in a group that cherishes the outdoors, then we’ve truly lost most other groups within our society. It’s no wonder that the antis gain ground every year.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: trapdog1] #8540712
01/09/26 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
So reckless driving is punishable by the death penalty?

No matter which side you're on, this might be the dumbest comment yet.

Lol that’s a question, not a comment.

And what I asked is being suggested by people who are certain that this was a justified action based on her behaviors. I’m not saying she was making good decisions, and who knows her purpose for even being there, but there’s clearly debate on whether he needed to pull the trigger.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540715
01/09/26 08:18 AM
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"who knows her purpose for even being there"

Really???

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540718
01/09/26 08:20 AM
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You are right about the debate, Leroy Bob, and none of us are going to settle it. Bottom line is, it sucks that this whole thing happened.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540720
01/09/26 08:22 AM
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She served her purpose for being there. This was going to happen eventually, if not her then someone else.
The purpose of her actions and other "protesters" actions was, and is, to push legal law inforcement until something bad happens, and it did.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: rvsask] #8540721
01/09/26 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rvsask
[quote=Marty B]

THIS!!!
Yet both “teams” think their side is pushing the truth. lol
Let’s not forget about paid influencers too.

X for example is out of control pushing division. There’s really no point in even going on out anymore unless you’re fine with never seeing content from anyone you follow because all you see are the blue check mark “people”.


The buffoons in the administration, and their spokespeople, couldn't care less about the truth. Trump, Vance, Noem, et al. are maligning the lady for purely divisive political reasons.

I have a suggestion: conduct an honest investigation and shut up until it's done.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540722
01/09/26 08:26 AM
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Walleye101, I get it. But I’m not going to assume to have all the facts. I’m just going to hope Tampon Tim doesn’t send in the National Guard and put Americans in a situation where they start killing each other so we turn a blind eye to some unprecedented levels of corruption.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540724
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Originally Posted by warrior
I sure am glad all y'all numb nuts are faster than a speeding car while running backward, no less.

I, for one, am too old and too fat to run anywhere other than to the john. Car comes at me. I ain't second guessing, I'll light it up.

Some of y'all are letting your natural cautionary fear of government abuse of power, a totally natural and laudable fear that I share with you, color your opinions. While some are lost in TDS delusion.

IMO, there is no possible way to square saying you fully support what ICE is doing in rounding up illegals yet call this act of self-defense unacceptable. It is merely an unfortunate outcome of that which you say you fully support because were it not a protester, it would be an illegal fighting back. To be crass, you can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs.


You sir are qualified to work at ICE.

Do you own your own mask?

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Blaine County] #8540730
01/09/26 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by warrior
I sure am glad all y'all numb nuts are faster than a speeding car while running backward, no less.

I, for one, am too old and too fat to run anywhere other than to the john. Car comes at me. I ain't second guessing, I'll light it up.

Some of y'all are letting your natural cautionary fear of government abuse of power, a totally natural and laudable fear that I share with you, color your opinions. While some are lost in TDS delusion.

IMO, there is no possible way to square saying you fully support what ICE is doing in rounding up illegals yet call this act of self-defense unacceptable. It is merely an unfortunate outcome of that which you say you fully support because were it not a protester, it would be an illegal fighting back. To be crass, you can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs.


You sir are qualified to work at ICE.

Do you own your own mask?


Blaine Blaine Blaine..

Dont give Warrior the opportunity to call you a liberal piece of crap.
Im proud to hold that title as mine for the time being.
Thank you for attention to this subject.

Mac


"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540734
01/09/26 08:54 AM
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Proud liberal piece of crap?
Enough said.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540741
01/09/26 09:08 AM
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Wow, you 2 guys that have no problem letting a car run you over are quite passive. After repeated orders to get out of the car by a law enforcement officer she chose to disobey them and got an alternative result. I haven't seen anyone comment they're happy with the result but it could've been avoided if she would've listened.

If the reports are true that she was trained to disrupt ICE and interfere with law enforcement do you 2 agree with what she was doing? It's a simple question that will be telling on what you think of American citizens or illegal aliens.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540743
01/09/26 09:18 AM
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If he had said nothing and just shot her, like in the Ashley B. case, I can see it being a problem. It is a tragedy that she wasn’t strong minded enough to not be manipulated. There are many out there and this will not be the last incident.


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540752
01/09/26 09:27 AM
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All this is after that fact, you weren't there at the time in front of the car. both people involved were trained in one way or another before the incident and reacted to their training.......jk


Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: alaska viking] #8540758
01/09/26 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
"Get out of the vehicle!"

"No!"

BAM

Not in America, right?


So let's add other obvious context that you left out.

She was ordered to get out of the car. She chose to proceed forward moving in a vehicle that can kill anyone. The ICE agent standing in front of the vehicle was 8-10 ft away at most. It appeared to me the road was slick or had some cold weather precipitation on it. She first moved in a forward motion, THEN turned the wheel. That was a split second decision. She could have very easily turned the wheel back and accelerated and killed the officer. SHE DID NOT STOP WHEN TOLD AND MOVED FORWARD WITH ICE STANDING DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HER.

I can tell you, and you can also, a persons reaction time to be able to get out of the way of a vehicle accelerating toward you on a slick surface IS A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION. I sincerely hate this happened and it is tragic for anyone to lose their life in this fashion but when three LE are around my vehicle, that means there are three firearms that can be drawn on me at any time. I will be outmanned and outgunned. I would have made the correct decision. She chose to fight THE MAN in favor of illegal immigration and law breaking. It was HER CHOICE. She chose poorly.

Now all you TDS loons that want to argue this, I ask you to go back and review the video with this in mind and tell me I am wrong. The ICE agent can't read minds and does not know the intentions. He made a wise but unfortunate decision. He will have to live with this the rest of his life. The shot was righteous.

Don't turn this into another George Floyd.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540759
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How does the "don't listen to cops get shot"
thing work for def people?





Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540761
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If they choose to drive their vehicle in a fashion that is threatening to any LE, it will most likely work out the same. If I see a gun pointed at me, I am not moving my vehicle in any way in a forward motion at the LE pointing the gun. That would be INCREDIBLY STUPID of me and anyone else. Deaf or not.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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