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Re: Federal Reserve [Re: yotetrapper30] #8543432
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Yes... the Fed has a dual mandate. They must consider both unemployment and inflation. Some think inflation should be given more consideration than unemployment. At any rate... unemployment is 0.4% higher than the target currently, while inflation is 0.7% higher than the goal. Inflation has been higher over the target (I believe) than unemployment has been for the last two meetings in which the Fed has cut rates.... if they were going solely by the numbers, they wouldn't have cut. There are other things besides just the numbers they take into consideration. But IMO they've been cutting too fast.

Based on the most recent reports, inflation has ticked down while unemployment has ticked up. The Fed makes it's decisions not only based on what the numbers are right now but also which way they are trending. It's like driving a car: you need to apply the brakes before your car reaches the point you want it to stop.

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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Yes... the Fed has a dual mandate. They must consider both unemployment and inflation. Some think inflation should be given more consideration than unemployment. At any rate... unemployment is 0.4% higher than the target currently, while inflation is 0.7% higher than the goal. Inflation has been higher over the target (I believe) than unemployment has been for the last two meetings in which the Fed has cut rates.... if they were going solely by the numbers, they wouldn't have cut. There are other things besides just the numbers they take into consideration. But IMO they've been cutting too fast.

Based on the most recent reports, inflation has ticked down while unemployment has ticked up. The Fed makes it's decisions not only based on what the numbers are right now but also which way they are trending. It's like driving a car: you need to apply the brakes before your car reaches the point you want it to stop.


How many months in advance??


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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by white17
Why would you think that gold is finite ?

In order to believe that , one would have to reject one of the basic principles of geology.........Uniformitarianism..........The processes that have operated in the past are still operating today in a uniform manner. IOW.....there is gold (and everything else) still being created in the earth today just as there was in the past

The primary mechanisms for creating new gold atoms are cosmic stellar explosions and colliding neutron stars. The gold was already present in the cosmic gas cloud from which the sun and planets of our solar system formed. There isn't more new gold being created within the earth and any new gold being deposited on the earth (via asteroids, etc.) is a drop in the bucket. There's still gold being created via processes out in the cosmos, but not on earth.


Devil's advocate here... what is your educational background in geology?


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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
In case anybody hasn't been paying attention the FED has restarted QE


Oh....... I've noticed!


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Devil's advocate here... what is your educational background in geology?

What is white17's educational background in geology?

I have taken college-level coursework in chemistry and physics. What are the mechanisms by which new gold atoms are created within the earth?

Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
How many months in advance??


Well, a bunch of smart people on a committee at the Fed meet roughly every 6 weeks to talk about it and potentially change interest rates.

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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Devil's advocate here... what is your educational background in geology?

What is white17's educational background in geology?

I have taken college-level coursework in chemistry and physics. What are the mechanisms by which new gold atoms are created within the earth?


Well.... I reckon that's his place to say and not mine.


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Well.... I reckon that's his place to say and not mine.

Then why don't you ask him?

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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
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Well.... I reckon that's his place to say and not mine.

Then why don't you ask him?


I know. Why don't YOU? He'll be here tomorrow and I am sure he'll reply.


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I know. Why don't YOU? He'll be here tomorrow and I am sure he'll reply.

It seemed, from your question, that you're arguing that someone must have a particular credential before they're allowed to weigh in on a topic, but this principle is being selectively enforced by you, since you asked me but not him.

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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I know. Why don't YOU? He'll be here tomorrow and I am sure he'll reply.

It seemed, from your question, that you're arguing that someone must have a particular credential before they're allowed to weigh in on a topic, but this principle is being selectively enforced by you, since you asked me but not him.


Why would I ask him, when I already know his educational background? I was just trying to ascertain whether you had a similar background or if you just took a class in physics and chemistry like every other college level student.....


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Why would I ask him, when I already know his educational background?

So, if one must have an educational background in geology to post about the creation of new gold atoms within the earth, and you are "allowing" white17 to post about it, does that not logically imply that he has an educational background in geology? Or are you selectively applying the rule?

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This showed up on my feed this morning,,,,, it’s pretty good

Former Fed Chairs and Treasury Secretaries are now warning us that the U.S. is “acting like an emerging market.”

The irony is thick.

The U.S. started acting like an emerging market under their direction and leadership when they debased the currency, monetized the debt, and backstopped insiders.

These are the same leaders who spent decades eroding the Fed's credibility by normalizing Fed intervention, turning monetary policy into a backstop for fiscal excess and financial markets.

They helped create an environment drowning in debt and moral hazard, and now that the politicization of the Fed becomes more overt, they’re suddenly worried about weak institutions and Fed independence?

I'm sorry but you don't get to destroy the Fed's credibility for 30+ years, then clutch your pearls when the consequences arrive.

I asked Grok to summarize the irony of these signatories lecturing us about Fed independence and inflation, and it delivered...

Alan Greenspan: The Maestro of Bubbles

Greenspan, the five-term Fed chair who spanned Reagan to Bush Jr., is the godfather of easy money.

He kept interest rates artificially low in the early 2000s, inflating the housing bubble that exploded into the 2008 financial crisis. His "Greenspan Put" essentially signaled to Wall Street that the Fed would always bail them out, encouraging reckless risk-taking.

This guy chaired the Council of Economic Advisers under Ford and basically wrote the playbook for moral hazard. Now he's signing a letter about "weak institutions" and "negative consequences for inflation"?

Bro, you created the inflation monster by flooding the system with cheap credit.

If the U.S. feels like an emerging market, it's because you treated it like one—printing to prop up cronies while savers got wrecked.

Ben Bernanke: QE King and Bailout Baron

Bernanke, two-term Fed chair and Bush's economic adviser, took Greenspan's mess and supersized it. Post-2008, he unleashed Quantitative Easing (QE), aka money printer go brrr, buying trillions in assets to bail out failing banks and prop up the stock market.

This wasn't "stabilizing" the economy; it was wealth transfer from Main Street to Wall Street, inflating asset bubbles while real wages stagnated.

Bernanke's actions politicized the Fed more than any "criminal inquiry" ever could, making it a tool for endless intervention. Now he's whining about undermining independence? You undermined it yourself, Ben—by turning the Fed into a central planner's wet dream.

Timothy Geithner and Henry Paulson: The Bailout Bros

Geithner (Obama's Treasury Secretary and NY Fed President) and Paulson (Bush's Treasury Secretary) were the dynamic duo of the 2008 bailouts.

They orchestrated TARP, funneling hundreds of billions to banks and institutions—often with no strings attached—while homeowners drowned in foreclosures.

Geithner famously argued for "foaming the runway" for banks, meaning soft landings for the elite at the expense of everyone else.

Paulson, a former Goldman CEO, basically used public funds to save his old buddies. These moves entrenched "too big to fail," making the financial system more fragile and dependent on government backstops.

Fast-forward to today: inflation from their era's policies has eroded savings, and the debt they piled on is why politicians are now meddling with the Fed. Hypocrisy level: expert.

Janet Yellen: From Fed Chair to Treasury Printer

Yellen's resume is a fiat hall of fame: Fed Chair under Obama/Trump (2014–2018), Treasury Secretary under Biden, and earlier roles under Clinton.

As Fed Chair, she inherited Bernanke's $4.5 trillion balance sheet monster from QE rounds and kept the printer humming—reinvesting maturing securities to maintain that bloated size for years, while holding rates near zero. The easy-money era she extended blew up asset bubbles, widened wealth gaps, and primed the pump for the 2020s inflation surge.

As Treasury head, she oversaw trillions in stimulus during COVID, much of it funded by Fed money creation. Remember when the Fed's balance sheet hit $9 trillion? That's Yellen's world.

Her policies directly contributed to the "highly negative consequences for inflation" she now decries. And let's not forget her flip-flopping on inflation being "transitory"—a lie that cost everyday people dearly as prices soared. Irony level: nuclear.

Just today, Yellen went on CNBC blasting threats to Fed independence as "extremely chilling" and warning that pressuring the Fed to cut rates to manage federal debt payments is "the road to a banana republic."

Ma'am, they literally paved that road under your leadership and policies. As Fed Chair, you spent years normalizing a massive, interventionist balance sheet and near-zero rates that turned the Fed into Wall Street's perpetual backstop—eroding its credibility long before any political pressure became more obvious. Peak hypocrisy.

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