Interesting thread bringing back a lot of memories. My dad didnt cut us no slack and grandad would get you also. A sow with uncut teeth ran dad up a fence once and i laughed and got the hog shocker and i went up the fence next. Pulling posts with a backhoe with grandad i was the chain man and grandad was operator. He demanded 2 wraps of the chain. I wrapped one once and gave the pull it sign. He knocked me down with the bucket and gave a 2 finger signal. I started listening lol. Good times nothing wrong with discipline. Abuse is different. Hard to tell with the news these days if they got the story right

The beatings will continue until morale improves.