okay.

but Rome was the government of the time and controlled that region.

and progressives (today) petition government to take care of the poor. Jesus didn't do that. He called on individuals to do God's work.

I totally agree on your take on progressives calling on govt to do what they should be doing themselves and their willingness to use govt force to do it.

I think you folks have gotten of topic here.

Sounds like you've lived a troubled life for a bit, and I wish you better days ahead. You've got some hard times coming. Please seek some help from professional folks, be it a counselor or spiritual adviser.

Thats a very tough situation. Im glad im not in it. I can't say what or how I would handle it becuse im not in the situation.

But a few thoughts. If there is no trust there is no marriage.

In the wife's defense over not telling you about your son's choice im conflicted. I she should keep nothing frome you. But your son told her probably in confidence and it was not her secret to tell. So its hard to know how to feel about that.

Sounds like you have been questioning things for a long time and want to do things in a Godly way.. Pray about it. .

Logically, progressive church= pro gay marriage. Not only making a mockery of marriage one of the most sacred institutions in the Bible but also not just condoning sin but celebrating it. Nothing good can come of a church like that.

0ne question why did your son tell your wife first and not talk to you about it until later?

You are absolutely correct in saying Lutheran Social Services and Catholic Charities are responsible for the influx of Muslims. And these two organizations were well paid per family they sponsored. They didn't just do it out of the goodness of their hearts. That has helped open the floodgates for some of this illegal immigration that occurred. I also believe these two churches thought they would be able to make Christians out of these migrants. If they did, they were sadly mistaken. Just the opposite is true.

Putting Christianity and our country in danger by intentionally importing the very worst Muslim populations in the world seems unforgivable to me. Those acts show them as enemies of Christianity and America.

Keith

As I said, if these churches thought they would be able to convert them into Christianity, they were in for a surprise. The Council of American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is an organization that claims to have been established to enhance civil rights for all Muslims. According to their leaders, their goal is to convert the whole world to Islam. We have seen how they do that in some of the countries they have come from in the killing of non-believers. Many living here aren't able to do that yet, as they haven't established enough dominance. But, they do have a pretty good foothold in a few countries like the UK and Sweden.

Warrior is correct. Rome allowed it's captured territories to remain mostly autonomous. That's why the Jewish king Herod ruled the Kingdom of Judea, when Jesus was born and his sons ruled the two kingdoms Judea split into after Herod"s death. The Pharisees were in charge of the running of Jerusalem. The Romans were the overlords, but allowed most of the governing to be done by the existing governments of the lands they conquered.

The US emulates Rome quite a bit.

Keith

kinda, but not really.

the locals didn't have the authority to impose a death penalty under Roman law...hence: Pilate.

Herod obviously had the power to kill all the male infants. Read the Bible and you will see Warrior is right.

Keith

good point on that, Keith. I wonder if infants had the same right to life as adults...

why did they go to Pilate for Jesus?

Jesus was passed up to the Romans by the Jewish leadership because Jesus was popular with many of the people and they didn't want to take the blame. Pontius Pilot knew he was being set up and passed the decision back to the crowd controlled by the Pharisees. Remember he washed his hands of the decision the Pharisees could of made on their own.

Keith

The Romans let the local people mostly self govern in every area they conquered, not just Judea. They also mostly used troops from the lands they conquered, rather than Romans. They sent the troops they pulled far from home, so they had no loyalty to the people they policed. They also allowed the worship of the local gods and even added many of the gods to their Pantheon of gods. It was a very well thought out system. Their flaw is that Rome itself became a welfare state. We face the same danger.

Keith

A married couple's first loyalty should be to each other. Not telling of her son's sexual orientation did weaken the marriage. Children are important, but must take a lower place than the unity of the couple.

I'm not a Christian, or a member of any other organized religion. I do think Christianity is a relatively good religion. I don't see gay marriage as wrong. I do see government forcing a religion to accept gay marriage as very wrong. Gays had something go wrong during their development, that made them gay, most often hormonally, but sometimes abuse, life experiences or a combination. I think some gays could choose not to be gay and that some can't. I think they are more to be pitied than hated.

I would not want a gay child. I would do I what I could to help them not be gay, which would likely be very little. I would not disown them over it.

Churches are bad when they push radical leftist values. Anything that pushes those values is bad. I would not keep a woman that thought like that. Moderate liberal values are tolerable. Anti-American, Anti White and Anti Self Responsible values are a deal breaker for me.

Keith

Yes they have. Please do not high jack my thread guys. Im asking for help in my situation.

Im sure he felt that it would upset me. My problem is my wife keeping it from me. It showed me her alliance is with the kids not me. She has hidden other things from me too. She says its not her place to say something .

… you think he’s genetically gay … or media influenced gay ?

Don't need professional folks - got 4 pages and climbing of T-Man expertise going here.

I'd trust trappers before college educated "professional". You know what colleges have taught of late?