Re: Dispute between fur trapper and dog owner
[Re: Chickenminer]
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Yesterday at 07:42 AM
Yesterday at 07:42 AM
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Idaho
bearcat2
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Idaho
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Reading the article it says the dog was caught in a foothold trap, then it says that the snare that caught the dog was lost. Which is it? I have hounds and like them better than99.99% of people, I get that you don't want your dog hurt and are upset. But, I can also say that I've had quite a number of my dogs caught in traps over the years, and not a single one of them ever had to go to the vet. They might gimp around for a few minutes, or even a day or so if they had been in the trap for while, but they were fine. Now if the dog was caught in cold weather and held overnight his foot might be froze, and then you're going to have to have it taken off. I've known of a couple hound guys that had that happen back before tracking collars. But as a 'dog walker' one would assume you were close to your dog, particularly since you went past signs saying there were traps in the area. So there should have been no issues with freezing.
As a trapper I get frustrated with all the people in the woods these days, and it seems they all have a dog or two with them any more. What I've noticed is in the snow you can't hardly get away from them. If they are using any part of the area, even if they aren't using where you go, as soon as you go there and make a trail, they will follow.
Personally, with it linking to a major anti-trapping site, and the trapper having signs up, it sounds to me like they went in there looking for a confrontation.
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Re: Dispute between fur trapper and dog owner
[Re: Chickenminer]
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Yesterday at 07:15 PM
Yesterday at 07:15 PM
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Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now back to O...
alaska viking
"Made it two years not being censored"
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"Made it two years not being censored"
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40 years Alaska, now back to O...
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The ATA has judicial precedent in cases just like this. In Juneau, maybe 8-10 years ago, I forget the date but not the case, A trapper by the name of John Forrest was checking his traps in a remote valley when he encountered a woman carrying a bald eagle that she had released from a wolverine set. She not only destroyed the trap, (a Newhouse 14, if I recall), and also destroyed several other traps on her way out of the valley. She was charged and convicted for tampering and destruction. He also filed a civil suit, which he lost. The ATA funded the prosecution and had the ATA legal counsel. Randy will have all details of the case.
Last edited by alaska viking; Yesterday at 07:15 PM.
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Re: Dispute between fur trapper and dog owner
[Re: bearcat2]
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Yesterday at 10:49 PM
Yesterday at 10:49 PM
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Joined: Feb 2020
Indiana
Providence Farm
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Indiana
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Reading the article it says the dog was caught in a foothold trap, then it says that the snare that caught the dog was lost. Which is it? I have hounds and like them better than99.99% of people, I get that you don't want your dog hurt and are upset. But, I can also say that I've had quite a number of my dogs caught in traps over the years, and not a single one of them ever had to go to the vet. They might gimp around for a few minutes, or even a day or so if they had been in the trap for while, but they were fine. Now if the dog was caught in cold weather and held overnight his foot might be froze, and then you're going to have to have it taken off. I've known of a couple hound guys that had that happen back before tracking collars. But as a 'dog walker' one would assume you were close to your dog, particularly since you went past signs saying there were traps in the area. So there should have been no issues with freezing.
As a trapper I get frustrated with all the people in the woods these days, and it seems they all have a dog or two with them any more. What I've noticed is in the snow you can't hardly get away from them. If they are using any part of the area, even if they aren't using where you go, as soon as you go there and make a trail, they will follow.
Personally, with it linking to a major anti-trapping site, and the trapper having signs up, it sounds to me like they went in there looking for a confrontation. It written poorly but it said some traded were damaged and the one that caught the dog was lost. Her is a section I copied showing the dog is fine. And the section about the traps below that. Thay use stained meaning the trap that caught the dog not a snare it seems. According to Hurd’s affidavit, McIndoe said “the dog was doing better” two weeks after the incident, “after a large vet bill. Two of the trapper’s other traps were destroyed, and the trap that snared the dog was lost
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