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Re: Progressive church??? [Re: Blaine County] #8549406
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Remember that Jesus wasn't a Republican or Democrat and I doubt he has a favorable opinion of die hard political types on either side of the spectrum. Neither really sticks to the Gospel--especially the ones that talk a big Christian game.


And I am sure Jesus would want us to lift our brother and sister up in times of peril or addiction and not let them die like survival of the fittest. The other fringe ideologies don't stick to The Gospel either.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549428
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Imagine a world with no religion.

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: hippie] #8549431
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Wife and I don't fight but if she supported the liberal agenda, that would change fast.

Dang Hippie! Spare the rod, spoil the wife?


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Re: Progressive church??? [Re: ABeardedTrapper] #8549445
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Originally Posted by ABeardedTrapper
Imagine a world with no religion.

Sounds commie.

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: ABeardedTrapper] #8549463
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Originally Posted by ABeardedTrapper
Imagine a world with no religion.


There was one home schooled black kid in my high school class, back in 1984. He was one of only two black kids in our whole school. He grew up incredibly isolated and his parents had never told him anything about any religion at all. He had no idea of even the concept of religion. We went to a Jesuit high school, St Xavier. It was the number two rated high school in the entire country at the time. It of course had mandatory religion classes. He was in my freshman religion class. He literally freaked out the first day in class. We thought he had gone insane. He thought we were all insane. He had to leave shortly into the class. His world view was completely shattered. I've never seen anything else like it. It's still one of the weirdest things I have ever seen. He thought it was all some elaborate prank on him first, but didn't clearly define it that way. He went into a terrible panic.

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Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549476
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Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549575
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Ohh geeeeeeez why is this on page 3??? Your son is queer. Your wife wants to go to a church that embraces queerness. Do you support both of those choices??? If not....... I don't know what the question is.


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Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549586
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Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549610
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Why are we bashing Lutherans now? Lutherans are Christians correct? They just broke away from the Catholic church yes? What am I missing? I guess there are Lutherans all over the country that don't have anything to do with supporting Muslim idealology. Right?

Id say go to church and see if you you like it. Why have you already decided that you don't like it without having tried it? Maybe go and point out the things that you find incorrect and discuss them. What's the basis of that church? That they love all people even if they are gay? You have gay family members and aren't on board with that? They must have counterpoints to why its acceptable. What are they? How do you know you disagree without listening to them? Maybe that's all your wife is trying to do?

I wonder how that works? Does their bible just skip over the parts of the bible that the hardcore people quote about how how being gay isn't supported (a sin?) or it says the same things and they just interpret them differently?

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: OhioBoy] #8549618
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Id say go to church and see if you you like it. Why have you already decided that you don't like it without having tried it? Maybe go and point out the things that you find incorrect and discuss them. What's the basis of that church? That they love all people even if they are gay? You have gay family members and aren't on board with that? They must have counterpoints to why its acceptable. What are they? How do you know you disagree without listening to them? Maybe that's all your wife is trying to do?

I wonder how that works? Does their bible just skip over the parts of the bible that the hardcore people quote about how how being gay isn't supported (a sin?) or it says the same things and they just interpret them differently?


Generally, they say that the meaning of the biblical condemnation of homosexuality is referring to men with boys instead of men with men. They also use Paul saying that there are no male or female in Christ to justify transgenderism. The problem with these churches isnt loving people who are openly and outwardly living in sin, its that they are twisting scripture to affirm those sins and call them good. Similar to a serpent in a garden in my opinion.

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549625
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So what's the official passage in the bible that is the "condemnation of homosexuality"? Is it worded differently in the various versions of the bible? Its not one of the ten commandments is it?

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: OhioBoy] #8549628
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
So what's the official passage in the bible that is the "condemnation of homosexuality"? Is it worded differently in the various versions of the bible? Its not one of the ten commandments is it?

"Thou shall not be a homo".
It's in there somewhere. Probably.

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8549639
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Ohh geeeeeeez why is this on page 3??? Your son is queer. Your wife wants to go to a church that embraces queerness. Do you support both of those choices??? If not....... I don't know what the question is.


Well said


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Seek the services of a good marriage counselor.

and...PRAY! a LOT!

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: 2zwudz] #8549643
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I guess people that believe passages like these believe that all gay people, "have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy".

Seems pretty basic to me. Does that accurately describe your gay family member or any gay person you personally know? Point being I could see their side of the argument if they are trying to defend themselves as good people where none of those things are true about them personally. Probably things they discuss in a church like that.

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21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

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How many people are in here against gays that eat bacon? How many eat shrimp, lobster, crawfish, eels, oysters, clams, and... whatever else? I don't understand why people pick and choose what parts of the bible to strictly observe and then want to tear down another human being b/c of it. Especially a family member.

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The Bible condemns eating pork primarily in the Old Testament's dietary laws, specifically in Leviticus 11:7-8 and Deuteronomy 14:8, which declare pigs unclean because they have cloven hooves but don't chew the cud, forbidding consumption and even touching their carcasses. These prohibitions are reiterated in Isaiah 65:3-4 and Isaiah 66:3, 17, linking pork eating with idolatry, sin, and spiritual defilement, though the New Testament offers a different perspective on food laws through Jesus' teachings and Peter's vision, declaring all foods clean.


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“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat. But anything in the seas or the rivers that does not have fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you. You shall regard them as detestable; you shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall detest their carcasses. Everything in the waters that does not have fins and scales is detestable to you.

Deuteronomy 14:9 ESV / 308 helpful votes
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat.

Leviticus 11:12 ESV / 280 helpful votes
Everything in the waters that does not have fins and scales is detestable to you.

Leviticus 11:10 ESV / 267 helpful votes
But anything in the seas or the rivers that does not have fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.

Leviticus 11:1-47 ESV / 260 helpful votes
And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ...

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“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat.

Re: Progressive church??? [Re: OhioBoy] #8549649
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Why are we bashing Lutherans now? Lutherans are Christians correct? They just broke away from the Catholic church yes? What am I missing? I guess there are Lutherans all over the country that don't have anything to do with supporting Muslim idealology. Right?

Id say go to church and see if you you like it. Why have you already decided that you don't like it without having tried it? Maybe go and point out the things that you find incorrect and discuss them. What's the basis of that church? That they love all people even if they are gay? You have gay family members and aren't on board with that? They must have counterpoints to why its acceptable. What are they? How do you know you disagree without listening to them? Maybe that's all your wife is trying to do?

I wonder how that works? Does their bible just skip over the parts of the bible that the hardcore people quote about how how being gay isn't supported (a sin?) or it says the same things and they just interpret them differently?


When any church or group goes against biblical teaching they are now leading people astray.

Can't get much more clear than mam shal not lay with man or woman with woman.

Lutheran church has had a big issue with their teachings and a lot of small churches that dont support the view have been splitting off.

There is a big difference between loving a person and including them in every activity and treating them the same than supporting sin and sinful behavior and making a mockery of the institution of marriage.

The go along to get along views is just not having good morals or a back bone to keep the money flowing in not following the teaching. Twisting scripture santan loves it.

Im trying to kewp in mind your 15 I believe. The harm in going is the church is not teaching correct and the problems he is having will be celebrated and elevated and justified there making them worse at home.


There is a reason same sex people insist on every one agreeing its OK and natural and normal. Its becuse they know its wrong and want to feel like its not.






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Praying for all caught is this sexual sin. Some churches are not following the word of God on this matter, and leading people astray.


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You gotta love organized religion. Every single version of it is the true and right one according to the ones that follow it.

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