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Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552056
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Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: This makes three [Re: walleye101] #8552088
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Well, I've enjoyed the thorough breakdown of all the video by the armchair analysts on here. One guy clearly saw the guy not do something, some call the whole thing peaceful protesting, others saw the guy shoot first, and bite off fingers. I wonder if there were two seperate incidents going on down there.


The finger biting was a completely different incident occuring same day and not directly associated with the shooting incident.


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Re: This makes three [Re: Blaine County] #8552144
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Dang. Some of y'all sure get catty when a guy suggests that federal agents shouldn't wrongfully kill a US citizen. Even a protester. Or, trample on the US Constitution--regardless of the political agenda. I happen to think the 1A, 2A and 4A are especially important. I understand y'all don't--at least not for the next 3 years. That's too bad.

As for trapping, come on out to my farm in OK. Plenty of animals and room. Big deer too. I admittedly haven't had time to hunt or trap my new place in NM. I need to retire early and will then.




Dang. You are avoiding the actual subject matter as bad as lg. I get specific and you talk generalities expecting anyone to give you respect because of your bar card. Shame a man your age and profession still argues like a middle schooler.

So counselor, this is what I want you to do. Let's see if you will put your money where your mouth is. Drive up to Minneapolis, put a pistol in a holster on your belt, find some ICE agents and start walking towards them speaking aggressively at them. If this last guy was supposed to be so righteous and constitutionally protected, then show us how righteous it is supposed to be by doing the same thing. Somehow, I am guessing you will still sit in your chair and keep talking your TDS non sense.

And as usual, you will not respond to posts that call you out. You just turn around and cowardly claim such comments are preposterous or beneath you when in actuality they describe you to a T. Textbook lawyer tactic. Attempt to make the person calling you out appear invalid even though what is being said about you is 100% correct.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: This makes three [Re: Blaine County] #8552165
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Dang. Some of y'all sure get catty when a guy suggests that federal agents shouldn't wrongfully kill a US citizen. Even a protester. Or, trample on the US Constitution--regardless of the political agenda. I happen to think the 1A, 2A and 4A are especially important. I understand y'all don't--at least not for the next 3 years. That's too bad.

As for trapping, come on out to my farm in OK. Plenty of animals and room. Big deer too. I admittedly haven't had time to hunt or trap my new place in NM. I need to retire early and will then.




Maybe you will answer since LG won't. Are these people actually following the 1st amendment?

Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552194
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Theres a song about " I fought the law and the law won". That would be fitting about now.


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Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552227
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I'd be happy to answer, and even include some historical context. Think back to how early Americans protested the British...besides acts like the Boston tea party, (the easiest example) they absolutely challenged the law enforcement of the day with guns in hand (the British army was the equivalent of the police back then, there was no separate police force).
Those same people, who obviously though that those acts were acceptable and even righteous at the time, then went on to write and approve of the first amendment. So let's ask ourselves.....did they think their own recent acts against the British violated the amendment they were writing?

Re: This makes three [Re: loosegoose] #8552245
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I'd be happy to answer, and even include some historical context. Think back to how early Americans protested the British...besides acts like the Boston tea party, (the easiest example) they absolutely challenged the law enforcement of the day with guns in hand (the British army was the equivalent of the police back then, there was no separate police force).
Those same people, who obviously though that those acts were acceptable and even righteous at the time, then went on to write and approve of the first amendment. So let's ask ourselves.....did they think their own recent acts against the British violated the amendment they were writing?

Apples and Oranges
I hope they figure out your transition meds soon

Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552246
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I'd say they didn't think far enough ahead.

Would you think the people who wrote the second amendment would shortly later ban guns on school property?
They did.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: This makes three [Re: wetdog] #8552252
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Originally Posted by wetdog

Apples and Oranges
I hope they figure out your transition meds soon

Wow, great rebuttal, with some interesting and well thought out counter arguments.

Re: This makes three [Re: BandB] #8552253
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Originally Posted by BandB
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Dang. Some of y'all sure get catty when a guy suggests that federal agents shouldn't wrongfully kill a US citizen. Even a protester. Or, trample on the US Constitution--regardless of the political agenda. I happen to think the 1A, 2A and 4A are especially important. I understand y'all don't--at least not for the next 3 years. That's too bad.

As for trapping, come on out to my farm in OK. Plenty of animals and room. Big deer too. I admittedly haven't had time to hunt or trap my new place in NM. I need to retire early and will then.




Maybe you will answer since LG won't. Are these people actually following the 1st amendment?


Your question makes no sense. People don't "follow" the 1A. Go read it.

It's legal to protest. It's legal to record law enforcement with your camera. It's legal to carry a weapon and 2 extra magazines (despite what Noem and Patel are saying). It's legal to help a lady who was just pushed to the ground by an ICE agent. Carrying a weapon and two extra magazines while doing these things is legal but is not legal for law enforcement to shoot you for doing so. The administration says that it is justification to kill a person. Wrong.

Y'all have fun and let the free Con Law lesson sink in. I have to go break ice and feed cows.

Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552269
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You want to know the truth?

You and I didn't get shot as that guy did because we didn't go there and impede Federal law officers from doing their job of enforcing the law.

Simple as that. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: This makes three [Re: hippie] #8552275
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Originally Posted by hippie
You want to know the truth?

You and I didn't get shot as that guy did because we didn't go there and impede Federal law officers from doing their job of enforcing the law.

Simple as that. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Early American colonists got shot by British soldiers because they interfered with their job of enforcing the law of the land, too.

What made that wrong, but this okay?

Re: This makes three [Re: loosegoose] #8552280
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I'd be happy to answer, and even include some historical context. Think back to how early Americans protested the British...besides acts like the Boston tea party, (the easiest example) they absolutely challenged the law enforcement of the day with guns in hand (the British army was the equivalent of the police back then, there was no separate police force).
Those same people, who obviously though that those acts were acceptable and even righteous at the time, then went on to write and approve of the first amendment. So let's ask ourselves.....did they think their own recent acts against the British violated the amendment they were writing?

Do you think the same of J6er's? Were they practicing their 1st Amendment rights?

Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552281
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BC and LG,

is resisting arrest okay in your first amendment viewpoint?

what happens to your everyday criminal when he is armed and resists arrest?

almost ALL of this drama/death could be avoided if local authorities wouldn't be releasing these criminals into their vaunted "Communities" and would allow ICE into the jails for those still in custody.

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Re: This makes three [Re: loosegoose] #8552284
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by hippie
You want to know the truth?

You and I didn't get shot as that guy did because we didn't go there and impede Federal law officers from doing their job of enforcing the law.

Simple as that. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Early American colonists got shot by British soldiers because they interfered with their job of enforcing the law of the land, too.

What made that wrong, but this okay?

In the case of the Founding generation they had no representation to address their grievances? In the case of the communist in Minnesota, they do.

Re: This makes three [Re: white marlin] #8552290
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Originally Posted by white marlin
BC and LG,

is resisting arrest okay in your first amendment viewpoint?

what happens to your everyday criminal when he is armed and resists arrest?

I don't think he should have been arrested in the first place. Arguing with a cop isn't a crime, nor is filming a cop, nor is possessing a gun while filming and arguing with a cop.

Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552291
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Everyone of those "protesters" is breaking Federal law, impeding ICE from doing it's job in ANYWAY is a crime. They should roll up with 10 buses and start loading them up. Liberal politicians and judges are at fault here and of course, liberals.

Re: This makes three [Re: loosegoose] #8552294
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by white marlin
BC and LG,

is resisting arrest okay in your first amendment viewpoint?

what happens to your everyday criminal when he is armed and resists arrest?

I don't think he should have been arrested in the first place. Arguing with a cop isn't a crime, nor is filming a cop, nor is possessing a gun while filming and arguing with a cop.



reports were that he resisted arrest. the time to argue whether or not he should be arrested is later, IN COURT...NOT in the street.

answer my second question.

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Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552304
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Seems as though he pushed down the lady in pink, and that's what caused ICE to confront him.
Just going by a video I saw that wasn't cropped by the liberal MSM.

If you can prove different, then I'll take a look.

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Re: This makes three [Re: warrior] #8552305
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There is a legal way to protest.
This method isn't.

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