What kind of range can you get with the 10mm?

How far can you effectively shoot a striker fired pistol?

60ft, that is way closer than I want to be to a grizzly.

9 for the hoods 10 for the woods. 10mm is mighty popular in alaska packs a punch

is the target moving or stationary ?

if it is stationary about 100 yards

if it is moving closer like 20 yards

Then add in: Is the target returning fire?

Chris

Sheep dog sounds like you are the only one qualified to have an opinion. Others can't have an opinion on what call id best if they have not been shot at.

OK. Let me rin this by you.

I shared my opinion on 5.56 ability to stop a threat bases on what I have seen on coyotes vs how they react with other calibers like 243 7mm-08 and 260 rem with my brother inlaw.

Now said brother inlaw has killed many people in Afghanistan he knows of and many more he is not sure of . Has been blown up 2x shot in the plates as well.

When I told him my opinion on 5.56 for people it was not favorable bases on what I have seen on 30lb dogs when compared with larger caliber. He said i was correct it usually took up to 5 hits to put the Afghans down and 308 typically did it with one but he did have one that took 3 with the 308..

Picking the best preforming rounds is a different conversation than how individuals will react under pressure in dangerous situations. You are getint the two conflate

And the round does make a difference and is why they developed the 45acp to begain with the smaller rounds were not stopping the threats. And also why they have been looking for a better preforming round than 5.56 for years. Sure you can drop deer with a.22lr every time in the right condition but thats not your all seasion all shot angle deer gun your going to be relying on.


I like the idea of .45acp. But its not league for deer in Indiana but .40 s and w and 10 mm are.

Only deer I have shot with my .40 s&w have been deer hit by cars. It put holes in them. Handgun are all weak compared to rifles. In theory a .glock 22 10 mm with 15 rounds in a chest rig with higher round.count and thin profile seems like a good back country protection gun over large relover. But just my theory. I dont want to be relying on a handgun for mad bear defense at all. At that distance and amount of time I figure I may kill/wound the bear but would also be dead.

Ballistics is why. A hot 10mm load leaves at 1300+ fps. A hot.45 load leaves at a blistering 900 fps. Shooting the same 180 grain piece of lead, one is just longer and skinnier than the other. From a ballistics and performance standpoint, science says the 10mm is far superior. Ammo cost and availability are the only reason to even look at a .45

Most 45 I see is in the 230gr weight area not 180. Still less energy for sure but more frontal area. Also less recoil impulse easier to shoot well. Recoil reduction is why the 40 s ,& w was made after all. A lot of shooters at the fbi could not handel the 10mm well. ( i think i read mostly the ladies)
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I like my 10mm , didn't enjoy shooting a .45.
For me it's what I shoot best and the 10mm works well on hogs, and bear if I ever need it.