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Re: wife and the bible
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Going out to dinner my catholic raised wife asked me a question about our grandsons becoming alphabet people. There is no sign of that yet as 1 is 4 and 1 is scheduled to arrive in 6 weeks. I was raised Lutheran. Quoted a few passages (Romans 1). She said the bible has been interpreted so many times its not relevant any more. What say ye. I have seen many discussions where people use an earlier version, say in Greek to make their point and still are biased to their own thinking even to the point there is no meaning to the word "is". Yes, error is there, but we have to study to find ourselves approved by all of the Word and scripture can't be broken even when those errors are injected into a discussion. I think the real problem is we over ride the conviction of the Holy Spirit on our natural consciences enough times that He no longer has any relevant meaning because we have hardened over and we won't let Him in. So True about the Holy spirit Foxpaw
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Re: wife and the bible
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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Going out to dinner my catholic raised wife asked me a question about our grandsons becoming alphabet people. There is no sign of that yet as 1 is 4 and 1 is scheduled to arrive in 6 weeks. I was raised Lutheran. Quoted a few passages (Romans 1). She said the bible has been interpreted so many times its not relevant any more. What say ye. and Luther clearly pointed out serios errors in the way Catholic priests , cardinals , monks acted and handled themselves , didn't take care of their (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) nor the women the got pregnant. so if she states the bible is tainted with so many versions , cannon is basically less than that. I think she should worry less about that and spend the energy on strong positive connections between you , her and the grand kids. I have been Catholic and I have been Lutheran. the Lutherans are a lot more open to the LGBTQ+ than the catholic but pope Francis wasn't condemning of them either least not all of them. if people spent half the energy they spent bickering on the bible and spent it on service to others , the world would be a 1000x better. So you are saying Lutherans are more open to sin?
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Re: wife and the bible
[Re: Killbuck]
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The HOLY BIBLE can explain itself!!!! Just stop finding reasons and rationalizing on the basis that it is something you truly dont wish to follow but yet you wish to follow the World, which puts you as a direct adversary to the Only True and Living God. if you follow the world you will be at enmity with the Lord God Almighty.
When I denounced Catholicism as a false religion and the author of it is Satan himself, and Mormonism, Jehovahs Witnesses, Scientology, Christian Science, yall who are following these false doctrines never even studied the scriptures to authenticate what I said.
For you Roman Catholics, The Apostle Peter who walked with Christ for 3.5 years and 43 Days after his resurection. Can you evenly remotely fine any scripture that would support why the Catholic bunch will remotely stand firm in that he is the first Pope. That is absolutely nuts. Yall have been deceived. I know for an absolute fact that catholics are told to not read the scriptures and to only listen to what the priest tells them. Another thing within this falsehood, no man, priest or pope can absolve a man of his sins. Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ by his direct obedience to God the Father is the only way to God. John 14:6. Paul Dobbins himself has this at the bottom of everything he comments on. Because he has seen the light. Jesus is the way the truth and the light.
Mormons and Jehovahs non withnesses, you too have been deceived. there is no other way to God. The only true and living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Joseph Smith is an idiot at best and he is so far removed from those men who walked and saw and recorded the works Of Jesus Christ. It is absolute silliness that any human with a means by which to reason could remotely think that Joseph Smith or the Idiot behind the Jehovahs non witnesses and Christian Science along with Islam could pass the muster on those who died, who walked with Christ, witnessed all that he did at the direction of God the Father and then believe that this latter day crap is true. Yall are at best, very deceived and delusional.
These are false religions put in place by Satan himself to drag more people into hades with him. If you cant read the KJV bible and decipher the truth from the scriptures, then you have never achieved Salvation and the Holy Spirit doesnt dwell within you. And should you not on your own free will, with which The Lord God Almighty has given you, take every thought captive and let the Bible, the true Word of God, which is a living document, explain itself, then you are truly lost.
And another matter. Mary, the earthly mother of Jesus Christ, do you even remotely think that if she were brought back right now with the Apostle Peter that they would in any shape or form acknowledge this completely asinine doctrine of praying to her instead of Jesus Christ who is seated at the right hand of God the Father interceding in prayer for you and I. NO, NO, No she would not. She knew Jesus was the son of God and The Messiah. The angel told her so. She was with child, Jesus, by the direction of the Lord God Almighty through the Holy Spirit.
Why anyone would pray to Mary, and pray to Saints and pray in a false attempt to deliver loved ones from Hades is an absolute abomination. It is not, never has been and never will be something you can achieve by simply trying to be a good person and doing good works. Good works are because of your Salvation through Jesus Christ. John 14:6. Good works Do NOT and never will lead you into salvation.
Martin Luther figured out that works will never lead to Salvation, his Key failure was that he never overcame this in the truest since. He hated the Jews, Thus the Lutherian Conquests. Violating the scriptures of the Lord God Almighty when he said,, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you O Israel. Now, go to the book of Ezekiel and start at chapter 25-32 and read what God did to to the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Edomites and the Philistinians. They stood with Babylon to crush Juda 588-586 BC. And for their role in this God destroyed them as he prophesied through Ezeliel.
The Ammonites are the descendants from the incestuous affair between Lot and his youngest daughter, The Moabites are the descendants from Lot and his oldest daughter. The Edomites are the ancestors of Esau in which God totally wiped out that entire line of people in 582-581 BC just as he had said he would when Esau and his kindred refused Moses to cross Edom. God led them through anyway. The Philistines were Pagan people who worshipped Idols and were alway adversarial to Israel. God used Nebuchanezzerah to destroy them after they joined with Babylon to conquer Judah. Then, God raised up Cyrus as prophesied, to defeat and conquer Babylon at the end of the Israelites 70 exile. Cyrus and Darius were responsible for helping the Israelites return back to Israel and to rebuild their Temple which would be destroyed by Titus Vaspacian in 70 AD.
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Re: wife and the bible
[Re: Killbuck]
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Bible never said we have to bless Israel. God said that to Abram. Not the country. Israel isn't a nation, everyone who is a true believer in Jesus is spiritual Isreal. Yeah Luther went overboard, but he was mad at Jews for rejecting their own messiah. Jesus told the Jewish leaders that he would give the kingdom to others and that's what has happened ever since.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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