Then what about war? Based on that any intentional killing is murder.

At least 44,000 different protestant church denominations. Most likely more. 70 different Baptists, alone.


Save your KJV loving tripe, Sheepdog. The very book that was commissioned by a gay king that was meant for The Church of England. The very church that brought us the Anglican/Episcopalians. Ya know ? The very ones that have gay and lesbian "priests" that are advocating for the LGBT lifestyle ,certainly not calling for repentance.

War would be lawful killing, not murder. You are following the orders of your leadership.

Ecclesiastes 3:8
"...a time for war,and a time for peace".

I agree with both of you when it comes to war. But, I compare that commandment regarding killing or murder as being one and the same. Same as two different bible writers who call one a criminal the other a thief. Both are criminals no contradiction there. Killing and murder are the same. The solution is a common sense call in both cases.

Killing and murder are different, regardless what you "believe." They are two different words with two different definitions.

Just like criminal and thief. A thief is a specific type of criminal. One can be a criminal without being a thief.

Then why did one writer say there were two criminals on the cross with Jesus? And the other writer said there were two thieves on the cross with Jesus? Based on what you are saying there must have been 4 being crucified with Jesus, 2 criminals and 2 thieves.

The writers used different words based upon their interpretation of the original language. Some words don't translate exactly. Context is important when doing translation work. You would need to go back to the original text and read the entire section to understand the context.

A couple of questions for the theology replacement group.

1. At the marriage supper who will be the guest ?

2. Will the 144,000 be taken out of the new spiritual church and will only those be in Heaven and all the rest of the church bride will inhabit the earth, much like I've heard some of the door to door peddlers preach. What will happen to all those empty mansions that have not been filled in Heaven ?

I have the Vulgate edition which is translated from the original manuscripts. It references the same thing calling 2 thieves and 2 criminals.
If killing and murder were intended to be different there would be two different commandments. Thou shalt not kill and Thou shalt not murder.

Referring to Abraham, not the nation. For what reason? Because Jesus would come through his linage.

Actually, the angelicans and episopalians are split on the issue. Some of both denominations do allow gay priests and some don't.

The Watchtower Society, better known as Jehovah Witnesses, claimed years ago that when 144,000 of their followers died, that prophesy would be fulfilled. According to one of their followers, the world would come to an end as we know it. However, when that never happened, they said the rest would inhabit the earth.

Killing and murder are different.

Only one commandment means that the original writer (not the original translator) wanted to make a distinction.
Thou shall not murder, means that some killing is okay, but murder is not.

I can't really make heads or tails from this.
Heaven comes to earth. God's not gonna be running out of space for people, lol.

Does it not make sense that if the 144,000 was of the church, the rapture would have taken them out with the church as believers. So would that mean God is not finished with His Israel ?

Song of Solomon 8.8 (KJV)

We have a little sister,

And she hath no breasts:

What shall we do for our sister

In the day when she shall be spoken for?


In other words how can they protect her until she is spoken for in marriage.

Refers to Jews. Most of us can't read the Bible as it was written geared at the Jews first and foremost. Yes, much applies to us Gentiles, but we do struggle to understand just as the Jews did. Most of Revelelations refers to the Jews as the tribulation is designed for them. I plan to observe from above post rapture.

More I learn, more I understand Gods love and personal choice He has made and will make for His Chosen. Yes, I am grafted in as a Gentile, but will never replace those that are ministered to by the 144k......

Oh, well. I'm a preterist. I believe most prophecy is already fulfilled. In preterism, the 144,000 in Revelation are interpreted as a symbolic number representing the faithful remnant of 1st-century Jewish Christians sealed and preserved from the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. Oh, and the rapture isn't in the Bible. I'll be ducking now, as you
all hurl expletives at me....

I'll join you in being a hate sponge.
"Sola scriptura" also not in the Bible.