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Re: Tried cold bluing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Re: Tried cold bluing
[Re: Treefrog88]
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Have couple of shotguns I cold blued. Key is getting all oil and old finish off From someone who works in a plating shop and does hot bluing ( light black oxide finish ) , cleaning is everything . Need to clean it down to the molecular level. No impurities at all. Any impurities will ruin a bluing job. Time in solution is also key. Bluing is a light application of a black oxide finish. If I pull a part out of the black oxide tank early it is blue because the black oxide is so thin you can see the steel through it. A good black oxide coating is black as it is thick enough you can't see the steel anymore.
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Re: Tried cold bluing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Cold blue is for touching up a blued STEEL firearm, that pistol looks like a pot metal POS. Real blue does NOT peel off.
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Re: Tried cold bluing
[Re: Bob_Iowa]
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Crager what cleaners do you use today? The motor shop’s here complain that the stuff they can use now are very poor cleaners compared to what they used to use. I don't have an exact list but we use some nasty strong stuff. Acids - bases , detergents and lye based solutions. Some paint/varnish remover that I hate because it is real nasty stuff. I dress like a bum at work. All of my crappiest clothes as I ruin most of what I wear even as being careful as I can. Little droplets and splashes make tiny holes in my clothes which turn into bigger holes with washings. I ruin 2-3 sets of clothes a year.
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Re: Tried cold bluing
[Re: Osagan]
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CRAGAR, is there any cold blue out there that will come close to a hot blue finish? The best I've found is OxyBlue from Brownells and it's a get by at best. Not to hijack WDs thread, this question ought to fit right in. I'm sorry , I have very limited experience with cold bluing. About the only thing I can tell you is it is no where near as good as hot bluing/black oxide. Cold bluing takes much more time to get a good coating. I've done a shotgun barrel in the hot bluing tank that was done in 10 minutes. Cold bluing is much slower , maybe an hour.
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Re: Tried cold bluing
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Cold blue is for touching up a blued STEEL firearm, that pistol looks like a pot metal POS. Real blue does NOT peel off. the peeling was the before
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Re: Tried cold bluing
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CRAGAR, is there any cold blue out there that will come close to a hot blue finish? The best I've found is OxyBlue from Brownells and it's a get by at best. Not to hijack WDs thread, this question ought to fit right in. I'm sorry , I have very limited experience with cold bluing. About the only thing I can tell you is it is no where near as good as hot bluing/black oxide. Cold bluing takes much more time to get a good coating. I've done a shotgun barrel in the hot bluing tank that was done in 10 minutes. Cold bluing is much slower , maybe an hour. Thanks CRAGAR. Well, like Diogenes with his lantern roaming the Earth looking for an honest man, I'm always on the lookout for a cold blue that REALLY works. Haven't found one yet. Like Bob said, cold blue is good enough for touch up only. I have had very good luck Parkerizing here at the house but that's not blueing.
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Re: Tried cold bluing
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Sounds like pretty good cleaners. We use pro grade chemicals. Semi restricted sales , the people who make the chemicals don't want to sell to the general public as it is dangerous and toxic. We have to document and provide proof to the sellers who we are and what we are doing with their chemicals because of liability concerns. I have currently 100kgs of sodium cyanide in the shop to add to my tanks as needed. They don't sell that to just anybody. 100kgs is enough to kill a small city if put into a city water supply.
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Re: Tried cold bluing
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Re: Tried cold bluing
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Boy y'all really think I'm delusional huh  Wolfie , seeing what you started with and what you had to work with - cold blue , in my opinion , you did pretty good. I've seen much worse , you did OK. Now If I did it with professional equipment and chemicals and a proper hot bluing/black oxide , I could have done better , but yours looks good.
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