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Esther Island #8563623
02/10/26 05:28 PM
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The Beav Offline OP
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My Granddaughter Is headed for Lake Bay on Esther Island on Sunday for a 9 month
stay. Working the largest fish hatchery in the world That young lady is an adventurous soul.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8563787
02/10/26 08:53 PM
02/10/26 08:53 PM
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40 years Alaska, now back to O...
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40 years Alaska, now back to O...
I see it's in Prince William Sound. Must be a pink hatchery. The raise millions of them.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8563850
02/10/26 10:11 PM
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Way more valuable than the King salmon that we barely have anymore.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8563934
02/11/26 01:20 AM
02/11/26 01:20 AM
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They also raise Coho and chum salmon.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564031
02/11/26 08:04 AM
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"Correlation Pink Salmon / Chinook Salmon

Many salmon researchers and scientists have observed that as pink salmon abundance has ramped up to over 400 million fish in the Northern Pacific Ocean there has been a corresponding decline in both the harvest numbers and weight of harvested Chinook salmon during the same time period. A record copy (RC178) submitted by Virgil Umphenhour of the Fairbanks Fish and Game Advisory Committee to the recent Southeast Alaska Board of Fisheries meeting in Ketchikan features graphs that vividly illustrate these correlations. https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/...orting_Information_for_Proposal_156_.pdf

Despite these correlations between pink salmon abundances / reduction in Chinook salmon harvest numbers and weights (which may be compounded by hatchery releases of over a billion small pink salmon some years in State of Alaska waters) the Board of Fisheries and Commissioner of Fish and Game have repeatedly declined to reduce pink salmon hatchery release numbers (on a precautionary basis) to possibly aid in recovery of Alaska’s designated Chinook Salmon Stocks of Concern.

The ADF&G Commissioner and official department staff statements have maintained, that although there is correlation between pink salmon abundance / declines in Chinook salmon harvests and individual Chinook salmon size, those correlations and / or food competition from large pink salmon hatchery releases may not be the cause or sole cause of declines in Alaska-origin Chinook salmon populations.

Since significant reductions in so-called Private Non Profit (PNP) salmon hatchery operations / salmon release numbers would undoubtedly have some negative economic impacts, it is understandable that the Commissioner, Board of Fisheries, and those possibly benefiting from raising / harvesting / processing significant volumes of hatchery salmon could be reluctant to make or see any reductions in Alaska’s PNP hatchery operations / releases. Meanwhile, ADF&G data shows continued decline in specific major wild Alaska chinook salmon populations — even after near-river commercial and inriver subsistence, personal use, sport and / or commercial fisheries have been reduced for more than decade, and some reduced to total king salmon fishery extinction. With many traditional Alaska chinook salmon fisheries now extinct, and major Alaska Chinook populations still in decline, or not showing much recovery, how long will it be before specific Alaska Chinook population extinctions may occur?

Does anyone else believe that the correlation between pink salmon abundance / Chinook salmon reductions, if addressed through adaptive management, has a an inexplicably greater likelihood of increasing marine Chinook salmon productivity / survival than total harvest closures of near – river / inriver Chinook salmon returns (AFTER poor marine survival has already reduced Chinook returns below spawner replacement levels)?"

Source: AOC Andy Couch.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564254
02/11/26 02:25 PM
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Yep. I remember catching 40# plus kings from the Taku and Chilkat rivers in Southeast in the late 80s into very early 20s. Much bigger were caught every year, (my biggest was 49.8#), and the annual salmon derby in Juneau has seen steady decline in the winning fish, as well as average submitted fish size for a couple decades. Where it took a 50+ pounder to win pre-2005ish, the derby is frequently won by a low 20s fish, now, and a few have been won by a king less than 20 pounds!
Between the hundreds of millions of "new" pinks in the water, and the Trawlers killing sickening numbers of young kings, the evidence is there, and the Board of Fish knows it. It's a classic case of enrichment for the chosen few over the benefit of many. And all one has to do to understand why is look at the composition of the BOF.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564356
02/11/26 06:23 PM
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A friend's classmate took a job at a hatchery in AK after college. He was there alone for the most part and a mail plane came in every 10 days or so.

Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564458
02/11/26 09:16 PM
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So your grand daughter is going to help the eventual extinction of wild Chinook (King) salmon.

Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564574
02/12/26 12:26 AM
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It's just a freaking job.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564586
02/12/26 01:57 AM
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Been to Esther hatchery many times, but it has been 40ish years, I assume it has changed some since then. I think it would be a great place to work.


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8564697
02/12/26 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
It's just a freaking job.


I agree. I should probably see if they will give me a job in May, June and July since the old one is never coming back. smile


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Re: Esther Island [Re: The Beav] #8565274
Yesterday at 10:43 AM
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Remember the days when you could catch pink salmon in the upper Copper Rv.?


Life is hard. It's even harder if your stupid!
Re: Esther Island [Re: isnarewolves] #8565466
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Originally Posted by isnarewolves
Remember the days when you could catch pink salmon in the upper Copper Rv.?

No, I don't remember those days!

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