Urine on scat vs urine on backing/feature located opposite or 90deg to scat location. And maybe no visual at all and just a squirt on the dirt.
But I also know you like to put scent on something you can relocate to get them where you want them to be

You said more foot movement and having multiple focal points will certainly get them stepping around to investigate

At least that is my best guess until I get another clue

I love this thread. This is like getting a sneak peak at Doctorate curriculum in catching Wiley when your still a freshman. Interesting stuff. Thank You T for sharing.

I think you have stumped the trappers Tejas! Or maybe no one wants to be wrong in public. Either way, it makes me think and think… and think. Good job on this thread.

Thanks Fellas.

As all of you well know, getting folks to think is what this thread is all about.

The method used and results shown prove that this is far from a coincidental string of catches.

I think I will take this question off table for the time being. I’m sure it will be brought back up on down the line.

I will continue to apply this method under certain circumstances with no variables and see if its effectiveness continues to pan out.

The same method just discussed produces another coyote for six total.

That makes back to o back catches at this set.


This long lanky 3 year old female appeared pretty cool on the outside.




Proximity quickly changed that demeanor.

A little closer look brought a much more defensive look & stance.




Then you have the “Call My Bluff” game face.

Not sure if this is what you are doing, but I dribble a little urine in front of the trap as they would approach. Gives them the confidence to move forward and get a whiff of the urine that's behind the trap.

A while back it was discussed a bit about catching males vs females coyote.
I have been thinking about that and keeping track on my catches. My property is 435 acres shaped like a bowl surrounded by ridges with a creek in the bottom. Along the creek is some thick autumn olives and south ridge is a gas line.
So far, on this property, I have caught 7 males and 1 female coyote. Half on the gas line ridge and the other half along the creek. It seems like all I catch is males regardless of the animal. I have caught 4 bobcats, 3 toms and 1 female. The toms were all caught along the creek. Even the vast majority of coons have been male.
For my sets, it depends where I am. Along the creek it usually some sort of flat set with a curiosity based lure. I throw in a couple small punch hole with some bait too. I have caught one male on a snare. Along the ridge, I seem to catch more on a post set with some gland lure and urine along with some flat sets and a small mouse hole with bait. Of the set the female was caught along the creek with in a mouse hole set with bait.
Now the adjoining property is laid out almost the same way. I use the same strategies and look for the same type of locations to set. This property has produced 5 females and 1 male coyote. All have been caught on the ridges in either a mouse hole bait set or a flat set with urine and gland.
The ages have all ranged from a toothless old female to young males.
I think it has to catching the males is they are on the edges of their territories and catching the female more in the middle of their core area. I could be wrong but it is my thought. I do find it interesting.
Thanks for this thread, it sure makes me think and I feel it has improved my bag of tricks.

That is interesting. There are so many variables…

I trap 12 months a year. I tried to keep track of everything, but I always get busy and quit. I trap lots of ranches and I have to make my rounds. I video each catch for the landowner and for me to keep up with the numbers.

I wish I had an assistant who could track the bait, lure, weather, moon cycle, wind direction, temperature, sex, age, etc. I just don’t take the time. I’d rather put in a dozen more sets a day.

The only thing I do now is keep track of catch numbers on each ranch. That is how I get paid. And I change out my baits and lures every full moon. So I don’t overuse smells. I try not to reuse the smell for a year. Just what I do right now. Hope it helps.