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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568809
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Treed, do you support orthodox Jews spitting on Christians as part of their "culture"
Support Isreal bombing every Christian church in Gaza?
Egypt has 10% christan population, Israel 2% but Israel is God's people? Even though they reject Jesus, the central tenet of Christianity?

Do you not believe the way to heaven is through Christ?


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: J Staton] #8568811
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Originally Posted by J Staton
There is the fact that Iran has killed and financed the killing of many American soldiers, but I guess we ought not stop it because soldiers are for killing. Anyway, y'all worry to much about the bacon adverse folks when you should really be keeping your eyes on the rice eating tribe. Those are the true enemy.

Why did Israel send a team to "film the event" on 911? This isn't a wild conspiracy theory, Israelis with ties to intelligence were seen celebrating and filming after the planes hit the towers. That "event" (9-11) lead to the death and disfigurement of more U.S troops than whatever Iran has ever done.


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568812
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Nope don't support spitting on Christians, don't support bombing Christians. Yes Israel is Gods people but so are the 10% of Christian Egyptians just as the Christian Iranians.

Most definitely believe way to heaven is through salvation by the redemptive work and blood of Jesus Christ.

Do you pray that non-messianic or orthodox Jews begin to understand the truth? Does not the belief of the Gentiles provoke onward the Jews - scripture tells us this.

Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568815
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Messianic Jews prophesied the strikes on 9/11. I know this. Has our nation heeded many warnings of God?

Donner - are you anti-semitic? It seems you have nothing pleasant to say about Jews. I pray they find Jesus - those who by Gods design have had their eyes closed.

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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Messianic Jews prophesied the strikes on 9/11. I know this. Has our nation heeded many warnings of God?

Donner - are you anti-semitic? It seems you have nothing pleasant to say about Jews. I pray they find Jesus - those who by Gods design have had their eyes closed.


What have I said that would lead you to believe in anti Semitic?

I support the U.S. I don't have a blind allegiance to a foreign country, I live in the U.S, my people live in the U.S, I care about US


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8568818
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Messianic Jews prophesied the strikes on 9/11.


Your belief is that Messianic Jews prophesied 9/11 and sent a team with ties to Israeli intelligence to film it?


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568823
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Have no idea about teams sent to film 9/11. Nothing on intelligence. I read Jonathan Cahns books (he is a messianic Jew) who spoke about the prophecy and warning of 9/11. Our nation is proud and sinful allowing many great unrepented sins. I fully support our nation and am happily employed by the Dept of War for over 16 years and have served this govt for over 21 years. But, I also know a bit about Gods word and plan for redemption. I can't find the USA in there - can you? I have no blind allegiance to a foreign nation - I follow Gods Word as Our nation is only 250 years old, His Word is eternal. As a country, I prefer the USA but I hate seeing this nation turn from Christ.

Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568829
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I can't find the U.S in the Bible, I also can't see how the Jews who rejected and killed Jesus still have a divine right to eternity when Jesus specifically told the Jews they're "not his sheep". Jesus was the divine intercession that fulfilled God's promise, those who reject God's promise are not God's people, that's plainly laid out by Jesus right here on earth in plain wording


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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Messianic Jews prophesied the strikes on 9/11. I know this. Has our nation heeded many warnings of God?

Donner - are you anti-semitic? It seems you have nothing pleasant to say about Jews. I pray they find Jesus - those who by Gods design have had their eyes closed.




Any people including myself used to give the jews a free pass including myself after reading the bless them and be blessed passages.

Doing so requires over looking their direct hostel acts against my country and trying to justify all the money we send them and I can no longer do that.

Now you will go to the if not for tham must be against them simple mind set as you have with Danny. Thats not the case I have a if they are not for us they are against us mind set. There is a big difference and I dont give free passes to those that only have their self interest in mind.(jews) or want to harm us (Muslims).

Nope actions show who they are. All we need is another Govermt over throw and national building campaign. Have not had a good track record with that the last several times.

How about we spend our money on our debt and our country and let both of them work things out on their own. Neither have our interest in mind.

Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568845
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To really lay the boots to Iran, this close to the midterms,,,,,,

I think you would need some sort of “false flag”

At this point,, it seems more like a negotiation

Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568851
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PF - your ideas just show how our nation is turning more and more against Israel. I agree we should address things in our nation more but also don't believe we need to create little Somalia in our nation with our dollars as well or pay folks to deport themselves.

We have to quit spending. Not going to happen with either party. Both sides addicted to doing what they want either by nation building within or destroying our nation from within.

I am 10 minutes from Whiteman AFB and B-2s pretty much flew all night - we are saber rattling big time - not seen/heard this much action in years. Last strike on Iran, we had multiple fake launches mixed in real one. Would guess we are keeping them guessing.........

Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: Providence Farm] #8568906
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Messianic Jews prophesied the strikes on 9/11. I know this. Has our nation heeded many warnings of God?

Donner - are you anti-semitic? It seems you have nothing pleasant to say about Jews. I pray they find Jesus - those who by Gods design have had their eyes closed.




Any people including myself used to give the jews a free pass including myself after reading the bless them and be blessed passages.

Doing so requires over looking their direct hostel acts against my country and trying to justify all the money we send them and I can no longer do that.

Now you will go to the if not for tham must be against them simple mind set as you have with Danny. Thats not the case I have a if they are not for us they are against us mind set. There is a big difference and I dont give free passes to those that only have their self interest in mind.(jews) or want to harm us (Muslims).

Nope actions show who they are. All we need is another Govermt over throw and national building campaign. Have not had a good track record with that the last several times.

How about we spend our money on our debt and our country and let both of them work things out on their own. Neither have our interest in mind.


You’re not supposed to say that out loud, buddy.


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568914
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The Iranian leadership has killed many Americans thru their proxies. Take them out. Target them specifically.


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8568924
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Messianic Jews prophesied the strikes on 9/11. I know this. Has our nation heeded many warnings of God?

Donner - are you anti-semitic? It seems you have nothing pleasant to say about Jews. I pray they find Jesus - those who by Gods design have had their eyes closed.


Antisemitism is a pretty broad brush, lots of Muslims are Semites


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568927
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What is a “Semite” and why does it matter?

Semites are simply the descendants of Shem who populated much of the Middle East. But who is Shem?

Shem is the son of Noah and he had a son named Eber…who became the father of the Hebrew people…the Semites.

His lineage would yield a Hebrew named Abram, or Abraham. Abraham was blessed by God to be the father of MANY nations and through him ALL of the families of the WORLD would be blessed.

He passed the Abrahamic blessing to his son Isaac. Isaac passed the blessing to his son Jacob, who later became to be known as Israel.

Israel (Jacob) had 12 sons, who all became their own nations, or the 12 Tribes of Israel. One of his sons, Judah, became the father of the Jewish people and his name is where the term Judaism comes from.

So, only 1/12 of Israelites can be considered Judahites…or genetically Jewish. There is much more to this story, but this is a good place to pause.

So what does this bit of history tell us? That everyone in the Bible before Judah was NOT a Jew. Moses was not a Jew, he was a Hebrew.

So anyone saying that the Old Testament is all about the Jews is either ignorant or has an agenda.

The question is, did Israel pass the Abrahamic blessing to Judah and make them the chosen people?

Stay tuned.


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #8568929
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Well Israel (Jacob) wanted to pass the blessing down to his favorite son Joseph, but before he could…Joseph’s brothers became jealous and plotted to kill him.

Judah intervened and suggested they sell Joseph to a caravan of Ishmaelite traders rather than killing him, saying, “What profit is it if we kill our brother and conceal his blood? Come, let us sell him to the Ishmaelites, and let not our hand be upon him, for he is our brother, our own flesh” (Genesis 37:26-27).

So Biblically, the father of the Jews sold his own brother for silver out of jealousy.

So what happened to Joseph, the “chosen son” after he was sold into slavery? Well, Joseph rose from slave to the Prime Minister of Egypt. He had 2 sons (Ephrain and Manasseh) who were ultimately adopted by Israel/Jacob…who then passed the Abrahamic blessing to both of them creating a 13th tribe from the House of Joseph.

In the end Judahs older sons died and he ended up bending the knee to Joseph, the brother he sold into slavery.

So I ask, based on biblical facts, are the Jews the chosen people?


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Re: Bets on hitting Iran? [Re: Marty] #8568936
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Originally Posted by Marty
The Iranian leadership has killed many Americans thru their proxies. Take them out. Target them specifically.

Your absolutely right. Iran is the head of the snake....Take them down and the religion of peace is neutered.


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Originally Posted by trapper les
Well Israel (Jacob) wanted to pass the blessing down to his favorite son Joseph, but before he could…Joseph’s brothers became jealous and plotted to kill him.

Judah intervened and suggested they sell Joseph to a caravan of Ishmaelite traders rather than killing him, saying, “What profit is it if we kill our brother and conceal his blood? Come, let us sell him to the Ishmaelites, and let not our hand be upon him, for he is our brother, our own flesh” (Genesis 37:26-27).

So Biblically, the father of the Jews sold his own brother for silver out of jealousy.

So what happened to Joseph, the “chosen son” after he was sold into slavery? Well, Joseph rose from slave to the Prime Minister of Egypt. He had 2 sons (Ephrain and Manasseh) who were ultimately adopted by Israel/Jacob…who then passed the Abrahamic blessing to both of them creating a 13th tribe from the House of Joseph.

In the end Judahs older sons died and he ended up bending the knee to Joseph, the brother he sold into slavery.

So I ask, based on biblical facts, are the Jews the chosen people?


Then skip forward a bit , during the Macabeean wars they were adopting Greek pagan religion. The very thing they were fighting against.
Skip forward a bit further, you have Jesus being welcomed in as a king. Five days later ? They were calling for his death . Talk about fickle.


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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Danny - I agree with you. As a Christian, I do not desire to kill Muslims. I desire they receive salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ and receive Him as Lord and Savior.

Savell - Why do we send money and support Israel? You need to read your Bible and learn your history of this nation and what the founding fathers of the USA knew and believed. It honestly saddens me that men like you don't honestly know this answer. Our nation has been blessed beyond measure by God as we historically served Him. TImes are changing and less and less Christian influence is found in the US and we NEED to know that as our nation supports Gods chosen nation - our nation WILL be blessed. As we turn from that, we can in turn expect less. Consider this - in our lifetime we have elected officials now calling for the annihilation of Israel - think its going to get better for us as Islam spreads across the US and we turn farther from Judeo Christianity?

Giant Sage - Bible calls Iran- Persia, which it was known by. Will dig and get exact references. Gods chosen nation of Israel will at sometime in future be aligned with Persia and Egypt.


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