No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum ~ Live Chat

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570667
02/22/26 11:29 PM
02/22/26 11:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2007
Illinois
foxkidd44 Offline
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Illinois
As far as Noah and the possiblity of the ark being a true occurrence,,, the ark that had been rebuilt in Kentucky has some surprising answers and mathematical stuff that does leave some things open for consideration.
I myself still question the dinosaurs being on board… but I guess that’s another story for another day


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570677
02/22/26 11:52 PM
02/22/26 11:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Online content
trapper
waggler  Online Content
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
Regarding "the flood"; nearly every culture around the world has the flood story. That in itself lends a lot of credibility to the story.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570800
02/23/26 09:13 AM
02/23/26 09:13 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
S
Sheepdog1 Offline
trapper
Sheepdog1  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
17 For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.[a][b] 21 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.

24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

Genesis 7:17-24 NIV

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570806
02/23/26 09:23 AM
02/23/26 09:23 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Blaine County Offline
trapper
Blaine County  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2010
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
A global flood wiping out the entire globe is a metaphor--a very important story. But it is not historical fact.

If not, how did Noah get polar bears on the Ark?

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570809
02/23/26 09:24 AM
02/23/26 09:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
Imagine a young mother. 18-19 years old. Holding her infant tightly. Grabbing something that floats to keep her and her baby's head above water. Until hunger and exhaustion kills them both. What kind of father would do that?

I don't believe it happened. For those that do, how could you worship a creature that would do such a thing?

Last edited by danny clifton; 02/23/26 09:25 AM.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: Blaine County] #8570824
02/23/26 09:43 AM
02/23/26 09:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
central Haudenosaunee, the De...
W
white marlin Offline
trapper
white marlin  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2007
central Haudenosaunee, the De...
Originally Posted by Blaine County
A global flood wiping out the entire globe is a metaphor--a very important story. But it is not historical fact.

If not, how did Noah get polar bears on the Ark?


you don't believe that God (Who created the heavens and the Earth, and all that is in them) could pull that off?

oh, Ye of little faith...

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: danny clifton] #8570829
02/23/26 09:44 AM
02/23/26 09:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"
HobbieTrapper  Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Imagine a young mother. 18-19 years old. Holding her infant tightly. Grabbing something that floats to keep her and her baby's head above water. Until hunger and exhaustion kills them both. What kind of father would do that?

I don't believe it happened. For those that do, how could you worship a creature that would do such a thing?


Pretty sure with all the predators in the oceans they didn’t suffer that long. Perhaps that was their first sinless day and He gathered them up to Himself. A lot of possibilities other than excuses not to believe.

We are not ours but the Creator’s.

Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 02/23/26 09:46 AM.

-Goofy
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: danny clifton] #8570836
02/23/26 09:50 AM
02/23/26 09:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Online content
trapper
waggler  Online Content
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Imagine a young mother. 18-19 years old. Holding her infant tightly. Grabbing something that floats to keep her and her baby's head above water. Until hunger and exhaustion kills them both. What kind of father would do that?

I don't believe it happened. For those that do, how could you worship a creature that would do such a thing?

There are things worse than physical death. Our physical bodies aren't even in existence a fraction of a second when viewed from an eternal perspective.
Don't you think that mother you mentioned cried out to God when in her distress? If she did, God rescued her.....eternally.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570839
02/23/26 09:53 AM
02/23/26 09:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
central Haudenosaunee, the De...
W
white marlin Offline
trapper
white marlin  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2007
central Haudenosaunee, the De...
danny,

so maybe you should run for "god"...it seems that your knowledge and goodness exceeds God's own.

how about you start small by maybe building a tree...from scratch.

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: white marlin] #8570845
02/23/26 09:57 AM
02/23/26 09:57 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Blaine County Offline
trapper
Blaine County  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2010
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Blaine County
A global flood wiping out the entire globe is a metaphor--a very important story. But it is not historical fact.

If not, how did Noah get polar bears on the Ark?


you don't believe that God (Who created the heavens and the Earth, and all that is in them) could pull that off?

oh, Ye of little faith...


The Catholic Church embraces science and reason. Faith and science compliment each other.

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570849
02/23/26 10:02 AM
02/23/26 10:02 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
S
Sheepdog1 Offline
trapper
Sheepdog1  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about[b] long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord[c] at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
I
8 In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. 9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”[d] 10 Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.

11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.

12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”[e] 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

A Call to Persevere
17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

20 But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.[f]

Doxology
24 To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— 25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Footnotes

Jude 1 NIV

pay very close attention to verses 17-19.

However if you are not a believer then it will have no sting. yet, if you ponder your own disbelief, you still have an unseared conscious. In reality, I pray for your sake that it does sting. Not for ill meaning but to save your eternal soul and spirit from the eternal lake of fire!!

Verses 22 and 23 are what inspired me to post this.

Last edited by Sheepdog1; 02/23/26 10:04 AM. Reason: change a sentence
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: Sheepdog1] #8570874
02/23/26 10:36 AM
02/23/26 10:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
Ephesians 2:2

Ruler of the air probably refers to Satan.


Amazing new lipstick that is guaranteed to make you lose weight made by Gorilla Glue.
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: waggler] #8570882
02/23/26 10:43 AM
02/23/26 10:43 AM
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
Originally Posted by waggler
Noah actually took 7 of each clean animal and only two of the unclean.
Was it the entire world that got washed clean or just the known world? I don't know, could be either, doesn't really matter. What matters is the point of the story.

Back to aliens and kangaroos; the bible isn't a history book or a science book, altgough it contains some aspects of those subjects. It is about God's plan to have a relationship with man, man's rejection of God's plan, and God's design to restore the broken relationship with man.


Most biblical scholars believe Noah took 7 pairs of each clean animal, not just 7 of them, but 14.

Keith

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570891
02/23/26 11:01 AM
02/23/26 11:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
B61-12 vicinity, MO
T
TreedaBlackdog Offline
trapper
TreedaBlackdog  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Jan 2007
B61-12 vicinity, MO
get back into scripture and see if it really says every animal or kind...........pretty sure Noah didn't take black and tans, redbones, blueticks, treeing walkers, running walkers, Julys, Plotts, mastiffs, shitzu, poms, wolves, coyotes, etc..........he took a canine KIND

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: KeithC] #8570893
02/23/26 11:04 AM
02/23/26 11:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Online content
trapper
waggler  Online Content
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
O
Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by waggler
Noah actually took 7 of each clean animal and only two of the unclean.
Was it the entire world that got washed clean or just the known world? I don't know, could be either, doesn't really matter. What matters is the point of the story.

Back to aliens and kangaroos; the bible isn't a history book or a science book, altgough it contains some aspects of those subjects. It is about God's plan to have a relationship with man, man's rejection of God's plan, and God's design to restore the broken relationship with man.


Most biblical scholars believe Noah took 7 pairs of each clean animal, not just 7 of them, but 14.

Keith


My bad, I forgot to add "pairs".


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: Blaine County] #8570916
02/23/26 11:27 AM
02/23/26 11:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
central Haudenosaunee, the De...
W
white marlin Offline
trapper
white marlin  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2007
central Haudenosaunee, the De...
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by white marlin
you don't believe that God (Who created the heavens and the Earth, and all that is in them) could pull that off?

oh, Ye of little faith...


The Catholic Church embraces science and reason. Faith and science compliment each other.


'complement'.

anyway...

is it "reasonable" (from a science/human viewpoint) to believe that God spoke everything into existence?

your church also embraces things that aren't Biblical.

Last edited by white marlin; 02/23/26 11:28 AM.
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570939
02/23/26 12:05 PM
02/23/26 12:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
S
Sheepdog1 Offline
trapper
Sheepdog1  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
praying to Mary, that Peter is the first Pope, that you can do good works and receive salvation, pay the church money to absolve your sins, confess to some dude in a closet believing he can forgive your sins, pray folks out of Tartarus. It isnt the word you folk use, praying to the saints, asinine and blasphemous and spits in the face of Jesus Christ who suffered once and for all for the sins of all of humanity, once having completed his works, ascended unto The Father and is seated at the right hand of The Father as our advocate interceding in prayer for us to the Father. I can keep going

Re: Bible and UFO [Re: white marlin] #8570951
02/23/26 12:43 PM
02/23/26 12:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
OK
Aaron Proffitt Offline
trapper
Aaron Proffitt  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2007
OK
Originally Posted by white marlin


your church also embraces things that aren't Biblical.


Cite an example.


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: Sheepdog1] #8570952
02/23/26 12:46 PM
02/23/26 12:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
OK
Aaron Proffitt Offline
trapper
Aaron Proffitt  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2007
OK
Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
praying to Mary, that Peter is the first Pope, that you can do good works and receive salvation, pay the church money to absolve your sins, confess to some dude in a closet believing he can forgive your sins, pray folks out of Tartarus. It isnt the word you folk use, praying to the saints, asinine and blasphemous and spits in the face of Jesus Christ who suffered once and for all for the sins of all of humanity, once having completed his works, ascended unto The Father and is seated at the right hand of The Father as our advocate interceding in prayer for us to the Father. I can keep going


Yet, your denomination has reduced sacraments to being merely “symbolic”. The early church never taught that.


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: Bible and UFO [Re: nate] #8570957
02/23/26 12:52 PM
02/23/26 12:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
S
Sheepdog1 Offline
trapper
Sheepdog1  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Sep 2015
Livingston, Texas
this is not about winning an argument, being superior to another about their beliefs, its about Winning souls for the good of the Kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. take all emotions and feelings out of your thoughts and words. Listen to what the True and Living Word of The Lord God says. That is the crux of John 14:6, and why some on here have that at the bottom of their bio when they post. Their is NO other Way to God the Father except through Jesus Christ.

It isnt the Pope, Joseph Smith, Tate Russell, Muhammed, Hindu, Budha, Ghandi, L. Ron Hubbard, Mary Baker Eddy, the founders of Universalist Unitarians...............

No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Galatians 1:6-9. This is irrefutable unless you have been blinded by these false prophets with these false Gospels and been lead astray. I am not saying this to insult you or be mean. I want you to truly search out the scriptures for yourselves and use all resources available to truly find the meaning of the True and Living Word of God. I dont want any of you to be told, Depart from me I never knew you. I do not, nor does the The Lord God Almighty:

Peter 3:9
King James Version
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread