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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575148
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let's talk about cheap junk. I just bought a coil, cdi, and stator with wiring harness for an ATV. total price $88. Just the trigger coil part of the complete Stator assembly OEM was $75.
All those components installed and working. They certainly were cheap, we will see if they are junk. It would sure take more than a 300% tariff to get those aftermarket products anywhere near OEM price. With a 30 to 50% tariff I would still be buying the cheap stuff and just paying the tax.


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575150
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Eventually you would have to buy theirs, we were headed there fast. More and more of a consumer nation daily..

I'm all for free trade, zero tariffs. Other nations didn't see it that way, so what's our options?


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575154
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Can inflation dropping to low levels all the while tariffs were applied be explained?

Makes me think there is a bigger picture to be looked at.

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There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575158
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Inflation is not at low levels. It is pretty much where it has been since end of 2024. Tariffs are just one inflationary pressure. Most of the tariffs have been reduced and a bunch have been eliminated since Liberation day so the pressure is pretty minor now.


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575239
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Correct,

The same low levels compared to the previous 4 years and DIDN'T go up after tariffs instituted. Ya can't argue that.

Tariffs are one part of the equation as you said, and can have positive results in home grown production and better paying jobs.


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575243
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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: hippie] #8575258
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Originally Posted by hippie
Either Tariffs or we all work for peanuts like the third world countries you want to buy cheap junk from.


Remember what Ross Perot said about the great sucking sound?


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8575268
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
I've always said we need to do away with income tax and go to a national sales tax. Couldn't get more simpler than that. And everyone pays into it.

To simple


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Steven 49er] #8575473
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by hippie
Either Tariffs or we all work for peanuts like the third world countries you want to buy cheap junk from.


Remember what Ross Perot said about the great sucking sound?


It was about Mexico. What he say about free trade with Europe( or Europe north: Canada). Those working men in Europe got it better than in the USA.

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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575475
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Inflation is not at low levels. It is pretty much where it has been since end of 2024.


are you DAFT??

inflation at the end of 2024 was 3-4 times what it is now.

Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: white marlin] #8575478
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Dirt
Inflation is not at low levels. It is pretty much where it has been since end of 2024.


are you DAFT??

inflation at the end of 2024 was 3-4 times what it is now.




Huh???

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575484
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inflation was near 9 percent for awhile, under Biden.

perhaps I got my years wrong.

my real point was that PRICES don't come down, even if the inflation rate does...at least they never did during/after the inflationary period during the late 1970's


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575657
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Where is my apology?


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You're sorry.

Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Rat Masterson] #8575699
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You're sorry.


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Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575758
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Technology is deflationary

We have entered a hyper “technology” era,,,

Prices will fall,,,,,drastically

The illusion of rising prices comes from an increase in money supply

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The problem coming up is technology is going to put huge parts of the population out of work

Mainly “white collar” workers at first,,,,

People are going to start wanting more social programs(UBI,,etc)

Causing governments to increase money supply even more,,,

Which is inflationary

Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Dirt] #8575814
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Mr Perot was talking about Mexico at the time because that was the subject at the time. Trade with all countries has been eased since then.

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Originally Posted by Dirt
Where is my apology?



there, there...I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

Re: Should it be easy or hard to get taxes back? [Re: Steven 49er] #8575873
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Me Perot was talking about Mexico at the time because that was the subject at the time. Trade with all countries has been eased since then.


How's the job market in the U.S.? Hard to find one?

"The data in Table 1 shows U.S. average tariffs for Mexico, Canada and the rest of the world in
1989, 1993 and 2001. The U.S. simple average tariff applied to imports from Mexico declined from 4.01
percent in 1989 to 3.15 percent in 1993 before falling further to 0.52 percent in 2001."


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