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Re: Fur sales
[Re: ChadDaniel]
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Yesterday at 12:12 AM
Yesterday at 12:12 AM
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Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now back to O...
alaska viking
"Made it two years not being censored"
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"Made it two years not being censored"
Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now back to O...
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I am told by a couple folks I know in that end of the pipeline that the bulk of these extremely high-end cats indeed don't end up on the gallery racks, but rather the very wealthy, and not just the USA wealthy. China is a current major end-market, as is,(was?), the middle east, Russia, and parts of Europe. Also, while sable has almost always had a prominent role in high-end fur garments, and they never have commanded what the cats are right now, it takes a lot of marten backs to equal one cat belly. And there is good value in cat backs, but not so much for marten bellies. Either way, I am very happy for our cat trappers, but also agree that tags are likely to be introduced where they currently are not, and reduced where they are.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Fur sales
[Re: ChadDaniel]
#8579496
Yesterday at 07:50 AM
Yesterday at 07:50 AM
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Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
Shakeyjake
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
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Wildlife management should be about numbers and habitat, not fur price value…….but I guess they have to factor what could happen with huge prices. Making a fur harder or almost unobtainable drives the black market.
Kinda like polar bear in Manitoba. The super rich Aisians that come up don’t get how all their money can’t purchase a hide. It was a few years ago that there was a bust with a few international agencies involving big money from Mexico trying to get a P bear out of the country. Never made it past Winnipeg.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Fur sales
[Re: ChadDaniel]
#8579610
Yesterday at 11:20 AM
Yesterday at 11:20 AM
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Joined: Mar 2012
Nevadafornia
Lazarus
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Mar 2012
Nevadafornia
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Shakeyjake has it right. Sound biology should control limits and seasons, not fads or sales. If there is an overharvest of bobcats, the biology will bear that out but to panic because a fur article has increased in price isn't wise management.
There is a time lag of 2-3 years between an increase or decrease in market prices and trapper activity. It takes a season or two of high prices before trappers have confidence enough in the trend to mobilize and harvest animals. Likewise, once a robust market price has been established for a particular species, when that price goes down (as it always will), it takes trappers a couple of seasons to believe that an article they have consistently sold for $X, is no longer bringing that price. Trapper activity and harvest fall off, and the cycle starts all over again.
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Re: Fur sales
[Re: ChadDaniel]
#8579683
Yesterday at 12:52 PM
Yesterday at 12:52 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Magna, Utah
GritGuy
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Magna, Utah
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I've been doing my fur making business for over 23 years now, I watch the prices here always, and I have never once seen the price of cats stay the same in 3 years time, and I know for a fact that our DWR people go crazy with limits every time the price gets over 300.00 a cat. Our state just up the limits on cats, doubt any one here will see the same limit next season !
And we have great cats as well, think them day's of two to three years it takes to change things are way over in my view, those states not ever seeing limits are about to, the clock runs a lot quicker now than it ever has on fur prices !!
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Re: Fur sales
[Re: ChadDaniel]
#8579829
Yesterday at 06:25 PM
Yesterday at 06:25 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
beaverpeeler
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
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I'm probably wrong but we already may be seeing the averages on cats coming down. I see $500 avg for NM and this weekend at Idaho there were a lot of no-sales on cat lots. I'm sure the best cats still shined but my bet is the average will not be $1000 like some recent sales.
I know, I know, NM and surrounding states not the same as Idaho and surrounding states. We will see when sale averages are posted for Idaho. The real story will be the next two weekends Utah and Oregon.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Fur sales
[Re: ChadDaniel]
#8579868
Yesterday at 06:56 PM
Yesterday at 06:56 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
beaverpeeler
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
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I spoke to one of the Greeks that was at this sale and he's telling me that 90% of these high dollar cats are going into China. What I should have asked is if they stay there or get made into coats and go out of country. But apparently the Greeks were there to tell the local buyer they were working with how much to spend on individual lots.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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