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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8580778
03/11/26 05:58 PM
03/11/26 05:58 PM
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To Rusty and the crew hats off for all the hard work you guys put in making
ITA one of the largest fur sale in the nation!!
It's easy for some to complain and compare to other fur sales
OTC only had 276 cats so yes bid sheets come quick
I talked to someone who said last year his check was dated wrong
and took a month to get paid that was why he was at Glens Ferry
this year so they have computer problems also
Where else can you take all the skulls and such to sell
Where else can you have 40 to 50 buyers looking at your fur
ITA has built a great sale and I am sure they will continue to grow
Just my 2 cents

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: lope] #8580785
03/11/26 06:17 PM
03/11/26 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lope
To Rusty and the crew hats off for all the hard work you guys put in making
ITA one of the largest fur sale in the nation!!
It's easy for some to complain and compare to other fur sales
OTC only had 276 cats so yes bid sheets come quick
I talked to someone who said last year his check was dated wrong
and took a month to get paid that was why he was at Glens Ferry
this year so they have computer problems also
Where else can you take all the skulls and such to sell
Where else can you have 40 to 50 buyers looking at your fur
ITA has built a great sale and I am sure they will continue to grow
Just my 2 cents

Hear hear!!!! Brother Lope and to all who put in their time and effort into the best fur auction in the US.

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8580912
03/11/26 10:22 PM
03/11/26 10:22 PM
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Oregon
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In my defense I'm both a farmer and a trapper....complaining is in the dna! grin


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581068
Yesterday at 10:59 AM
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Carl, I don't know why you would drive clear to Idaho to sell those cats when we have two fur sales in Oregon. I think the oil companies are doing fine without your help. grin

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: Petcoon] #8581082
Yesterday at 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Petcoon
Carl, I don't know why you would drive clear to Idaho to sell those cats when we have two fur sales in Oregon. I think the oil companies are doing fine without your help. grin


He's trying to fill up his "no-sale" punch card!






Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: Petcoon] #8581088
Yesterday at 11:35 AM
Yesterday at 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Petcoon
Carl, I don't know why you would drive clear to Idaho to sell those cats when we have two fur sales in Oregon. I think the oil companies are doing fine without your help. grin


Good point. I had a lot more than cats though and ITA attracts more crafters than OTC lately. Plus I had a deal with Randy Shuff to bring all my beaver tails over. That paid for lot of my gas. Of course didn't know gas prices were going to spike right now. Start out at $4.40 gal in Oregon but in Idaho was paying $3.18


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581128
Yesterday at 01:11 PM
Yesterday at 01:11 PM
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I hadn't been to a fur sale in many years until NAFA went under. Since then I have been to a few, and for the last few years I have helped out at the ITA sale. It started out by jumping in to cover for someone while they took a bathroom break while I was there checking in fur and slowly morphed into showing up before the sale started and staying until after it is over. Of the sales I have been to, ITA is undoubtedly the best for the sellers. They allow all sorts of stuff on their sale, and actually have buyers for it show up. This means a trapper can bring everything he wants to sell to one place. Furs, skulls, baculum, glands, horns, traps and trapping equipment, even mounts can all be sold. There are usually a couple bear and cougar hides, maybe a cowhide and this year I checked in a goat hide. If it is legal to sell, they will take it. This draws in the crafters and anybody can get a bid sheet and bid on things that don't require a fur buyers license. There is always some tanned fur if you want a particular animal to hang on your wall, and tanned fur doesn't require a furbuyers license. Or Fish and Game will be there at least one day, selling furbuyers licenses. It is like a snowball, the more stuff you have, the more buyers show up, the more buyers show up, the more sellers show up, the more sellers show up, the more stuff you get. And the more buyers you have, the more chances you'll have multiple buyers interested in your items, the more buyers interested in your items, the higher the prices.

Now of course some markets can be flooded, and some easier than others. The skull market seems easy to flood, for example beaver skulls went for just cents this year. I talked to the big skull buyer that always is there and he told me, "I will buy them all, but I can buy beaver skulls by the freezer load, so I am not paying much for them." He has years worth of inventory of them.

There have been many discussions on how to improve various aspects of the sale. It has grown quickly in just a few years to be the biggest sale in the west (possibly in the US but I know nothing about sales back east) and you can't expect it not to have a few growing pains, but Rusty works very hard at trying to have everyone, buyer or seller, leave satisfied with the sale aspect. This causes some of the delays as they don't turn fur away, both Friday and Saturday nights I was there until after midnight checking in fur, if you showed up and turned your paperwork in by the time on the schedule, we are going to be there until it is checked in, then when all that is done, regardless of the time, Rusty starts bringing in boxes of shipped in fur that arrived after the deadline, we did a whole truckload of boxes that arrived Thursday and Friday, then Saturday night we did more that his dad brought down that arrived Saturday. I'm sure he is still getting boxes showing up at his house. If someone is shipping fur to the sale, I highly recommend shipping early so it can be gone through and put out before the sale starts. And send a list of what furs you have in each box, how you want them lotted, etc. It really slows things down when we have to go through and see what you have and decide how they should be lotted. Leaving easily found instructions is very helpful, and DON'T forget your NAME! We had multiple boxes that Rusty had to have one of the girls google the address to find out whose furs they were, and at least one I'm aware of that had no return address on it.

I know nothing about computer systems, but that seems to be one of the biggest things slowing things down, if that could be expedited, it would be a tremendous help, next would be the buyers getting their bids in, in a timely manner. But you can only rush buyers so much, before they either don't bid on stuff they haven't looked at, or give lowball offers on a bunch of stuff they just gave a cursory glance to. That is counter productive.

I tend to help on the fur check side of things a lot, so I feel more comfortable commenting on that. Overall it seems to go fairly smoothly, just the vast volumes we have had the last couple years slows it down. Show up early and expect to be there a while. If you are new and don't know how to lot or minimum your stuff, we are more than happy to help you. But at least try to pay attention and learn. Have your furs and other items organized and know what you have. If you can put everything on the table in order and tell us what it is, it goes smoother. For example, if you have four lots of skunks, have them seperated, we usually delineate lots by putting zip ties through the eyes, one lot red, next green, etc. Not the lot zip tied together, we just have to cut them apart so the buyers can look at each hide to grade, but a zip tie through each individual fur. We had a few sellers who had done that at home, this was very nice. Run through all your skunks, then do all your coons, then all your coyotes, etc. Dumping a pile of coons, skunks and rock chucks on the table, with no idea of how many of each are in the pile or how you want them lotted slows things down. If you have a couple hundred rats, put them in cardboard boxes and write on the boxes how many are in each box. Yes, we have to count and verify, but if we come up with the same count as you, we only have to count once, and large lots of rats are going to go in boxes on the tables so they don't end up slithered everywhere. So you bringing them that way means we don't have to find boxes of the right size. These are little things that the individual sellers can do to help, any one of them won't save a lot of time, but they will make things run smoother and every little bit helps. We are happy to help, or provide suggestions, but if you know how you want your furs lotted ahead of time, having them organized helps. I know a number of sellers that have came to this sale (myself included) specifcally because they allow you to lot your fur how you want, and to have as many lots as you desire. Speeding things up by creating disgruntled sellers or causing them to take their furs elsewhere is not helpful.

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581138
Yesterday at 01:47 PM
Yesterday at 01:47 PM
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Oregon
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Good post Bearcat! If all the sellers had read that and heeded your advice ahead of time it would really have helped. The ITA volunteers are second to none in terms of all the effort and time they put in. I've shagged a lot of fur on OTC sales over the years but nothing like what these guys had on their plates last weekend.


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581143
Yesterday at 01:53 PM
Yesterday at 01:53 PM
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Bearcat 2. Thanks for that. Great detail and explanation. Again, great job done by all the hard workers at ITA.

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581206
Yesterday at 03:45 PM
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Bearcat that is an excellent post. And I do need to apologize on my shipped fur. I included every detail I could think of and what Rusty told me to in a note in the box of coyotes and fox but just assumed you guys would run all the coyotes as a lot and all the fox as a lot. I should have specified that in the note though. I'll keep that in mind if I ship again.


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581214
Yesterday at 03:59 PM
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I know nothing about the computer program ITA uses at their fur sale. It has, in my opinion, some flaws. Hopefully they are able to fix them before next season.

I would like to point out that ITA owns a copy of a computer fur sale program that is used by both Oregon and Nevada. It is very efficient program and easy to use. I think it would make ITA sales run smoother. Not sure why they aren’t using it.


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581347
Yesterday at 08:27 PM
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Do you folks understand how much work and time goes into putting on a fur sale? These people worked there tails off. They don't get paid they are doing it for our sport and to stop the anti trapping people. I for one appreciate all their time and support for trapping

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581357
Yesterday at 08:35 PM
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Yup. I understand 110% the work involved in putting on a fur sale. Been there, done that.

My purpose in posting is to offer suggestions to make the ITA sale better. There are ways to make it more efficient. Printing results at 4 AM is total BS.


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581363
Yesterday at 08:38 PM
Yesterday at 08:38 PM
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I have now been to three ITA sales and I will say that their corps of volunteers is second to none,


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581383
Yesterday at 08:49 PM
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Why do certain people have their shorts in a knot? Patients is virtue!

Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: foxhunter52] #8581403
Yesterday at 09:00 PM
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For me patience is never the issue. It is more along the lines of making sure that my fur has every chance to be seen and bid on by as many buyers as possible. If the event is over-crowded with fur for a one day sale did my fur get its best chance to be seen and evaluated? If it was a top end cat probably yes.... but I never will have that cat.

That said I know that Rusty and crew will be making changes in the future so that their sales will continue to be top notch affairs. This particular sale had too much fur for one day.


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Re: Glenn's Ferry [Re: beaverpeeler] #8581529
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
This particular sale had too much fur for one day.


The results will reflect that as this thread helps offer an explanation.

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