Great photos and descriptions, Tatiana. We seem to have the same humor with our descriptions of marten facial expressions -angry, drunk or mildly retarded . I see a lot of things in that same way

Years ago, in a lovely discussion with Jack , we were on one of many subjects about his studies of marten. I'm so glad I saved this one. At the time, I was trying to understand his findings with them. Listening to him discuss this and other "official related" subjects in a circle of fellow biologists , trappers and scientists at a get-together at his place, I was transfixed in the things they shared.

I thought this share, from Jack, would be very welcomed in this neat discussion.

I so appreciated learning more about his description of the Yellow Throated Marten. Bedsides their very different physique, what I'd love to see in videos are their behavior as a pack animal , even hunting deer. That would be a force to deal with carefully as a human found on the trail by a group of them, I would imagine...

Thank you for your info and photos, Tatiana. Besides wolverine, all marten have been a favorite of mine in art and knowledge.

Below : part of Jack's discussion with me.

Sharon sez: "We seem to have the same humor with our descriptions of marten facial expressions -angry, drunk or mildly retarded."

Oh, you are talking about marten/sable?

I thought you were describing most of us people on T-man...!

Pete

I was reminded of you yesterday, Pete, I saw a fun logging competition sporting event, based in Wisconsin . Cross-cut saw, chainsaw speed cookie cutting, pole stand chopping, axe round cutting. It was fun to see. The worlds champs were competing.

Anyway , back to hybrids . Tatiana , fur with that high gloss sheen is the best , to me.

T4Ever explained that gloss when I was choosing the marten I wanted for my hat.

I'm still in "school" when I attempt to capture that gloss sheen effect on fur I do in my art.

What nice photos. The gloss on them are wonderful. I see a tail length difference among them. Along with colour tone differences. I do see a more wooly one , the top photo, the second from left, middle, the dark ones, the far right, the third from the right side, and perhaps the last one to the left. The bottom photo, the left . I know you mentioned there are no pine marten in those shots, I'm just seeing a bit thicker underfur on the ones I mentioned.
All of them are beautiful.

I had T4Ever explain glossy in the market values , because I saw his marten were amazing piles of fur that were all good quality. All I did was ask

In the top photo I would say the second from the left and possibly the far right. In the middle photo I would pick the middle dark one and the rightmost dark one, in the bottom photo I can't tell much difference between the two.

To me, the bottom photo: The one on the left looks very similar to the marten I caught on my main line, fur-wise. Big color difference, of course.

I love all the colours, Tatiana. And I definitely see the fur texture difference. As an artist lost in the beauty of fur texture, I see all this instantly. Even the more subtle fur textures.

I told T4Ever, after he sent me several pictures of his shop literally filled with huge piles of marten of every colour, and many other animals along the walls, that I could sit on the floor and admire and play with every hide all day. I am certain that he would have you and I put to good work skinning them as he brings them in ! I wouldnt be allowed much time to play.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and photos. By the way-none of your marten ever looks drunk, angry or a bit "touched"... retarded

That otter is happy to be visiting with you, Tatiana

Oh yes, T4E's boat. I think I would rather be the cook !

Speaking on canaries, he has trapped some very orange ones also. One of those I have as a nice contrast on my marten hat , in the back. The three very glossy tails show up very well on top of it.

Very interesting. Wonder which color is dominant when bred, or if any studies have been done? We have pockets of black muskrats, and normally receive a premium for them.

Interesting stuff here