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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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03/19/26 03:51 PM
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I have no problem with women in the military....We need them, and it's honorable.
But, not in combat....If a woman gets wounded, 10 men will get killed trying to rescue her.
No disrespect at all, but it's a really bad idea.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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03/19/26 03:53 PM
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I can’t see many women toting one of these for miles.
I don't see many of the men of 2026 doing it either!
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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03/19/26 03:57 PM
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I’m fine with women serving in combat and combat related positions. What we don’t need is sexual harassment. Get that out of the military and everyone can concentrate on the mission.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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03/19/26 04:03 PM
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting?
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 04:09 PM
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I’m fine with women serving in combat and combat related positions. What we don’t need is sexual harassment. Get that out of the military and everyone can concentrate on the mission. Women cant Carry as much weight so someone else ends up packing more, a woman will have a much harder time geting a 200 lb wounded man with 80 lb of kit on him to safty. Young men and women bad combo. Short amount of time and there will be sexual relationships jealous and poor unit cohesion. Men respond differently to a woman blown apart than a man as well. Women make great snipers and some would give some of guys a run for their money but typically its a bad idea to have them in combat..
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: Teacher]
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03/19/26 04:16 PM
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I’m fine with women serving in combat and combat related positions. What we don’t need is sexual harassment. Get that out of the military and everyone can concentrate on the mission. 17-30 year olds are what make up our front line troops. You really think basic biology can just be set aside that easily? And I'm not even talking about actual harassment.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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03/19/26 04:32 PM
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There are 6 foot tall women who could toss a lot of infantry men into a fireman's carry and haul them out , are they a minority of women ,Yes. but they exist.
this is 2026 , we need a standard PT test for each MOS you pass or you fail a standard training test for each MOS you pass or you fail.
one thing women need to know fighting in many of the places they might end up , is that they are fighting to the death or it is going to probably be even uglier than if they were a man. Although where we are likely going to be fighting men are probably fighting to the death also. not really much room for surrender and POW in the current theater of war. that is just something they need to know not something that makes them unfit to fight.
Men and women serve together in non direct combat that ends up turning into combat like convoys that are hit by insurgents already.
my opinion is you need to be able to perform to the lever the job you are taking demands. let that be the deciding factor.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 04:51 PM
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I had a female EOD tech in my unit here at Seymour Johnson, and she was exceptional. She could do any task the males could do, including wearing that cumbersome bomb suit. I had no qualms about going out on calls with her.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 05:23 PM
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As a woman, I would have no problem toting that rifle. That said.... I don't believe in women in combat either. And it's for one simple reason. The one given by ky_coyote below. Others mentioned women causing conflict within a unit by simply being female and I have no doubt that is true too. But, even setting that aside... the reason I don't support it is because more men WILL get killed protecting women. You can't change that. It's biology. It's hardwired in men, at least the sort of men that sign up for the military anyways, to be protective of women. It's just nature. Men will try harder to protect women than they would other men, and they will die for their efforts. I feel women are much better suited for support type roles. I have no problem with women in the military....We need them, and it's honorable.
But, not in combat....If a woman gets wounded, 10 men will get killed trying to rescue her.
No disrespect at all, but it's a really bad idea.
Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
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03/19/26 05:32 PM
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting? I believe that Isreal did have female combat troops and they were ruthless. I don't know if they still have them or not but they did when the Desert Eagle handgun came to the US.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 07:12 PM
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting? Do snipers count? The Soviets made use of female snipers in WWII, some of them exceptional.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 08:45 PM
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting? Do snipers count? The Soviets made use of female snipers in WWII, some of them exceptional. I would think yes, but snipers do get discovered sometimes....Then it could get more combat like.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 09:00 PM
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting? Yes the IDF is coed combat
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 09:25 PM
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting? Yes the IDF is coed combat Interesting, thanks for the info.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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03/19/26 10:51 PM
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I'm all for women in the infantry. As long as they are held to the same standards as the men. And they are not! Their standards for the APFT were/are lower than the mens. Example, when I was in the army, they had to do less push ups, less sit ups, and didn't have to run as fast on the 2 mile to score the same as the men. Same standards, sure have at it.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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I’m fine with women serving in combat and combat related positions. What we don’t need is sexual harassment. Get that out of the military and everyone can concentrate on the mission. Women cant Carry as much weight so someone else ends up packing more, a woman will have a much harder time geting a 200 lb wounded man with 80 lb of kit on him to safty. Young men and women bad combo. Short amount of time and there will be sexual relationships jealous and poor unit cohesion. Men respond differently to a woman blown apart than a man as well. Women make great snipers and some would give some of guys a run for their money but typically its a bad idea to have them in combat.. I agree with every thing you've said. We need women in the military, just not in combat for all the reasons you've stated.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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I'm all for women in the infantry. As long as they are held to the same standards as the men. And they are not! Their standards for the APFT were/are lower than the mens. Example, when I was in the army, they had to do less push ups, less sit ups, and didn't have to run as fast on the 2 mile to score the same as the men. Same standards, sure have at it. Guy I work with was a medic. Said a lot of women end up with hip and other factors doing basic things. Men and women have different bone density, lung capacity and muscle mass. We are build different for different purposes. One is not better than the other two parts of the system. Is there some overlap yes. Can some men do typically feminine things better and some women out do some men bot at limited task yes. Like it or not break it down to basic biology. Women are more valuable to the species. Men are expendable.. eggs are expensive sperms is cheap. A single man can father hundreds of children in a short time. Ladies are limited to what 12 to 13 in a life time with hard toll on their bodies. Anyone with comom since wants to protect women and provide safety and comfort to them. It should be ingrained in any and every man's DNA. Not becuse women are not capable but DNA thats part of a man's job and we are purposes built for it. I guess its no surprise in our time of weak soy boy simps so many would think women in combat would be a good idea. How about logistical sanitation issues and a 28 day ever changing hormone cycle in the field. Mots guys I meet that were in the service that thought it was a good idea were in motorized units doing very little to nothing walking or packing for extended missions. And even they eventually agreed after sone conversation combat is better for men. And like someone above said women in the mil general fall into 2 camps i will add a 3rd . Very friendly with the boys a low level mid female gets the attent of a 10 with limited supply of women and lots of young men. Man hating dike/ feminist and/or ball busting career soldier with chip on her with a need to prove they got to their position on merit not DEI or sleeping with the right people.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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Why are women's feet ,smaller than men's feet ?
Ans....So that they can stand closer to the sink
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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There were women in the Army back in 1976 already. Some of them took Basic Training at Fort Knox alongside but separate from the men. Their program was much easier than ours was.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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The number of women that could be effective and not a liability in front line combat is next to zero.
If equality is what is wanted then that is what should be given. Exact same PT requirements. Exact same rescue requirements. Exact same carrying requirements.
There are an extreme few women who could meet that standard. If they can, they can go to front line combat. If not, they can serve in other roles just as important.
I can carry or drag a 140lb woman. Next to none can carry or drag a 215 lb man.
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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Are there any other countries where women serve in actual combat?....Not combat roles, but actual fighting? Yes the IDF is coed combat However, the IDF reports that 1 out of 5 women have reported some sort of sexual assault or harassment. Terrible idea IMO. Remember the resources spent to rescue Jessica Lynch
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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Why are women's feet ,smaller than men's feet ?
Ans....So that they can stand closer to the sink Irrelevant pregnant belly keeps them further away than larger feet would. Now bare feet alows them to feel the floor and have better balance than wearing shoes.
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Re: Keeping Women out of Infantry
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White 17, said it right. I'm old school grunt, 69/72 LRRP 5th BN. Never served with women, but have spoken to few in VA, & most said sexual harrassment. My thought, BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU ASK FOR, COMBAT ISN'T A GAME YOU PLAY, BULLETS, SHRAPNEL, DON'T CARE WHO THEY PENETRATE. My team depended on each member, no excuses, mistakes you came out in body bags. If women, can pass the training ( no short cuts) I took, got no problem. Not being smart A$%, If you can't , maybe flying planes is better, humping the bush, packing 70 lbs., isn't for lot of males either.
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