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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Blaine County] #8586711
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Dow is down 9.22% since it's recent peak on February 10. S&P is down almost 7% since January.

Everyone should log onto their 401Ks today.


IMO this is not a bad thing. The market has been over-inflated for a long time. A correction, which I am not even sure you can call this.......was long overdue. I'd much prefer to see a gradual correction like this than to watch an AI bubble burst. Overall, I am up a bit YTD on my accounts.... not by much but a bit. But I dabble in options. Lot of great buying opportunities yesterday!!


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: hippie] #8586716
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Originally Posted by hippie
Calm down, lol

There's two ways to look at that, imo which I could be completely wrong about since I never studied the subject.

I believe like you insinuated that the strait being shut down is causing fuel to go back up and in turn inflation along with it. I'm not sure how much an interest rate cut will compound that but having sold property's a couple years ago I saw first hand how it impacts people borrowing money for homes or anything else.

This thread started out about Trumps pressuring of Powell?

Above a couple posts you say the new guy is only one of twelve so he won't have the say I assume, so why the worry about Trump pressuring Powell, only 1 of twelve?

Don't want to argue, just confused on thoughts.


I'm not overly worried about it.... I don't much like how Trump is using the DOJ to go after Powell criminally because he disagrees with his refusal to do the right thing and not lower rates. My main concern would be Trump accumulating enough votes in congress to hamstring the Fed. But I don't really see that happening either. Remember that any precedents set by Trump on this issue will also still be in play the next time we have a democrat Prez.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586738
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Dow is down 9.22% since it's recent peak on February 10. S&P is down almost 7% since January.

Everyone should log onto their 401Ks today.


IMO this is not a bad thing. The market has been over-inflated for a long time. A correction, which I am not even sure you can call this.......was long overdue. I'd much prefer to see a gradual correction like this than to watch an AI bubble burst. Overall, I am up a bit YTD on my accounts.... not by much but a bit. But I dabble in options. Lot of great buying opportunities yesterday!!


This is not a market correction caused by market conditions.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Blaine County] #8586741
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Originally Posted by Blaine County


This is not a market correction caused by market conditions.


I am not sure I understand. What do you consider to be "market conditions"??? In my albeit limited experience, the market is influenced by everything! Politics most of all. I'd have a seriously hard time not considering politics to be a "market condition" as it is the one I watch most closely every day........


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586747
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metal prices are dropping. gold and silver. confidence in the dollar is still high


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586757
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Sure. The markets are down. Buy the dip.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586776
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Blaine County


This is not a market correction caused by market conditions.


I am not sure I understand. What do you consider to be "market conditions"??? In my albeit limited experience, the market is influenced by everything! Politics most of all. I'd have a seriously hard time not considering politics to be a "market condition" as it is the one I watch most closely every day........


I consider sudden political decisions to be external factors affecting the economic environment. We may be splitting hairs as those political decisions contribute to risk which can be a condition.

My point was that the markets were up almost 10% more before the instability and other issues created by the current political decisions--love them or hate them. The drop was not because the market was oversold.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586783
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…. Give an example of what you would consider a sudden political decision please

sincerely,

- Savell


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Blaine County] #8586787
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Originally Posted by Blaine County

I consider sudden political decisions to be external factors affecting the economic environment. We may be splitting hairs as those political decisions contribute to risk which can be a condition.

My point was that the markets were up almost 10% more before the instability and other issues created by the current political decisions--love them or hate them. The drop was not because the market was oversold.


But the market IS oversold. And yes it was Trump's compulsiveness that caused it to fall. But.... I STILL see that as more of a good thing than a bad one.........it was needed........ imo


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586799
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I actually think you both mean the market was overbought....not oversold. Oversold generally refers to a condition seen during corrections rather than rallies.

If the SPX is currently down about 7% from the high that really isn't much considering the last three years have seen increases in the 17-20 % range


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: white17] #8586805
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Originally Posted by white17
I actually think you both mean the market was overbought....not oversold. Oversold generally refers to a condition seen during corrections rather than rallies.

If the SPX is currently down about 7% from the high that really isn't much considering the last three years have seen increases in the 17-20 % range


Thank you. I absolutely meant overbought but BC said oversold and I ran with it as I knew what he meant...... smile


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: white17] #8586828
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Originally Posted by white17
I actually think you both mean the market was overbought....not oversold. Oversold generally refers to a condition seen during corrections rather than rallies.

If the SPX is currently down about 7% from the high that really isn't much considering the last three years have seen increases in the 17-20 % range


I need all of the help I can get. Thank yiu for the clarification.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586846
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On the one hand you have Trump going after Powell for spending too much of the Fed's own money, insisting he has done something criminal on the Federal Building renovation.
On the other hand, you have Trump tearing down part of the White House to build a ballroom. He claims donors are paying for this. It is the People's House. Does this gigantic remodel require congressional approval? Or can every future president simply decide to do an addition?
And I would like to see every receipt showing exactly who paid for what. Seems reasonable.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586849
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… I think BC has me on ignore or something

… he won’t answer my question frown


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586874
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I might be a simple red neck with no" EDUCATIED" opinion but when money is involved corruption follows. Up or down.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586888
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Angela part of the reason for the rate cut would be to counter the reduction in money that could cause deflation.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586889
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Ok, now can we get back to our argument over whether or not the market is.........overBOUGHT? grin


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8586894
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I think the market is over brought still, and needs more downward movement, to create this there needs to be more uncertainty, I think this war may have started it as things may get worse with China.

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Blaine County] #8586953
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Thought One: Thank God for the Courts.

Thought Two: We cannot have a Fed that is a puppet of the President--whoever that President is.

Thought Three: We cannot have a DOJ that is the enforcer of the whims and vendettas of the President--whoever that President is.


An epiphany(just since Trump got elected).


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8586957
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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
Angela part of the reason for the rate cut would be to counter the reduction in money that could cause deflation.


Deflation?? They've not yet even been able to get inflation under control..... reducing the money supply should happen......... without a rate cut..... imo.....


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