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K-9s #8586823
03/21/26 05:13 PM
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TheCastorMaster Offline OP
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Has anyone experimented with using cow after birth on k-9s?

Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8587110
03/22/26 08:18 AM
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Yes. They are hard to work with because of their texture. Seems you have two ways to work with them. Either completely rotten down or semi dried to the point you can grind them. I use them some but haven't found them to be anything super great like I hoped. Ive heard discussions about aging them without air but haven't tried it.

Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8587583
03/23/26 04:41 AM
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I don't have experience with horse or cow afterbirth.

I do know that it was always a race between me and our LGD as to who got the lambing afterbirth. So fresh is also a possibility in a flat or dirt hole set, but it is not easy to work with other than a one piece and done type of bait.


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Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8587649
03/23/26 08:29 AM
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Kansas trapline products has a lure thats after birth based called blood runner. Probly like everthing else timing when used and where is the key.

Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8587797
03/23/26 01:18 PM
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You'll hear a lot of people say that the coyotes are coming in to eat the after birth. Most adult cows eat the after birth of their young. So, the question is, why is there a lot of coyote activity around calving areas? They might get some that is left lying around, but not much. Are they looking for or eating something else? What's your thoughts?

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Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8587813
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I think they get more afterbirth than you may think. I know on the fall calving cows the vultures will come in flocks and that's mostly all they are eating. We also get quite a few eagles this time a year on our spring calvers. Coyotes also eat the crap the first day or two the calves are alive.

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That's it, Yes sir. A lot of coyotes are seen eating the calf crap here during spring calving. Those calves get that rich colostrum in the milk the first few days and I think that calf crap is nutrient rich the first few days. I'm not saying they don't get after birth, but a lot of ranchers tell me the cows keep it fairly cleaned up.

Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8588160
03/24/26 09:52 AM
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Afterbirth is weird stuff.

I messed with it for many years (mess is the key take away).



Was scouting a spring job on year, calving grounds were down on the Yellowstone flood plain with ash draw rising ground up to the rimrocks.

Scouting in those ash draws, my dog came out 10 pounds heavier than he went in. Coyotes had been packing and stashing afterbirth up in those draws and my dog was going nuts stealing them!

Than the turd puked it all up in his kennel later!

Re: K-9s [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #8588180
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
That's it, Yes sir. A lot of coyotes are seen eating the calf crap here during spring calving. Those calves get that rich colostrum in the milk the first few days and I think that calf crap is nutrient rich the first few days. I'm not saying they don't get after birth, but a lot of ranchers tell me the cows keep it fairly cleaned up.

With that being said. What kind of odor or texture does colostrum have or give off?Could it be used as a change up attractant.

Re: K-9s [Re: Slipknot] #8588216
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
That's it, Yes sir. A lot of coyotes are seen eating the calf crap here during spring calving. Those calves get that rich colostrum in the milk the first few days and I think that calf crap is nutrient rich the first few days. I'm not saying they don't get after birth, but a lot of ranchers tell me the cows keep it fairly cleaned up.

With that being said. What kind of odor or texture does colostrum have or give off?Could it be used as a change up attractant.



Not sure about that. Colostrum is in the cow's milk. It provides high level of proteins for the calf's development. It's not the only thing bringing the coyotes to the area. As brought out after birth and then with the cattle feed around it attracts more rodents.

When it comes down to it there's multiple factors. A lot of calving here is done in smaller lots. They'll have 200 - 300 head in a smaller area. Seems like the after birth gets cleaned up fairly well. But when calving in a bigger area, I'm sure a lot more gets packed off like Boone was talking about.

Re: K-9s [Re: TheCastorMaster] #8588247
03/24/26 11:30 AM
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Kuykendall spoke well of using newborn calf poop. Ive never tried it. But it has the right consistency, thick and sticky.
We calf our 220 spring cows in about 120 acre pasture. If the vultures and eagles are coming to eat afterbirth im sure the coyotes are getting their share.

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