"5 The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy[a] are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor."

Neuralink is helping the blind receive sight, the lame walk, the deaf hear and the voiceless speak. It is giving hope to people with traumatic injuries and degenerative disorders. God bless it's inventors, who are helping people as Christ did.

Keith

This oughta get interesting.!!

Hopefully it stays polite. I think it's wonderful that human beings have designed technology that is finally getting to the point that it can cure ailments that could only be cured in a miraculous way in the past.

I truly believe that we are made in God's image and that part of his plan is for us to become more like him. I see Neuralink as a big step in that direction.

Anytime people approach greater perfection, whether in learning, science or even great athletic accomplishment, I see it as honoring God, who made us.

Keith

As long as we remember, Neuralink may cure physical ailments but it can't cure the soul. Only Jesus can do that.

Did I miss something? How could that be a bad thing?

Just because something is “invented” or “developed” doesn’t take away from God’s greatness. The elements used in the manufacturing process, the laws of physics, and neurological pathways that make Neuralink possible are still…from God.

That’s something mankind has always done. Take something God created ,take it and do something with it for our benefit. Be it a created element, laws of nature, or natural processes. He isn’t diminished, He is glorified.

Who said it was a bad thing?

Well said.

Yote, I thought he was saying it went against the bible or something and you seemed be getting popcorn ready. I thought I was missing something.

No, he wasn't saying that. I was expecting some of the very devout Christians on here to take it that way though. Guess I was wrong.

Blessings from God

yotetrapper, where would you fall in your own self evaluation, devout, atheist, agnostic or lukewarm. and before you answer. you may wish to consult with the scriptures. I am devout.

I am not sure how to answer that Dave, as I am not entirely sure myself. I suppose agnostic would probably come closest.

I wish I were closer to you to lead you down the path to salvation. If I am wrong, then nothing is lost, if unbelievers are wrong, then salvation is lost and 10 million years from now they wont be 10 millionth of a second closer to ever escaping the pits of hades and total separation from the Lord God almighty. eternal is eternal.

This kinda reminds me of when Jesus healed a man on the Sabbath….

Mark 3:1-6
New International Version
Jesus Heals on the Sabbath

3 Another time Jesus went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. 2 Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. 3 Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, “Stand up in front of everyone.”

4 Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.

5 He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. 6 Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.

We are all set out in this world to do good. If modern technology can heal people, how could that be construed as anything but good?

While I appreciate the offer and suspect your heart is in the right place, judging from some of your posts I'm not entirely sure you're exactly on the right path either.......

as a self identified agnostic how in the world can you even make that claim? a bit of self awareness goes a long way..

Well, Grumley, I was a Christian for a long time. Some self-identified Christians are part of the reason I no longer consider myself one.

Without having direct contact with you I would submiss you haven't a clue what the qualifiers are to be a "Christian.. you know that whole "born again thing,, receiving the Holy Spirit and all"

for the most part I try and keep out of these kind of conversations, it's hard to convey empathy through a text thread but for you as a self described agnostic to throw shade at sheepdog is something for sure. but one thing I'm sure of you'll have some kind of bs rebuttal.. it's your mo..

Understanding Christianity is something you don't start and stop on "feelings"

I'm sorry... your post doesn't make a lot of sense so I'm not real sure what you're trying to say.

I do get the sense you don't like me much though.

Don't really know you so I cant make that determination.. my words stand, you as an agnostic "by definition who hasn't determined anything" throwing shade at someone "sheepdog" who has a position is insane to me.. maybe you should stay in your wheelhouse?

I'll through another one at you, I don't think women folk should vote and I have a position to stand on in this option .. I'm certainly up for the conversation. What say you?

I don't think anyone should be able to vote unless they can pass some sort of civics test. Make a test with basic questions regarding how the government works, what a constitutional republic is, what capitalism is, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. Whoever can pass it can vote, regardless of gender.

How about we restrict voting for those that are called to war through selective service? When I turned 18 it was mandatory for me to sign up.. was it the same for you? heck I'm reasonable.. lets say only property owners?

If males are still required to sign up, then females absolutely should be as well if they are gonna be allowed to serve!

I'm not convinced on the property owner thing... a lot of highly successful business men and entrepreneurs live in apartments due to where they work.

I liked your other idea better before you deleted it... I'd prefer to see it limited to service members/veterans before I would property owners.

huh? I answered you. I'm eating... and our power also just went out momentarily. So, if I don't answer right away again, that's why.... not because you ran me off LOL

Man, you're deleting your posts faster than I can reply to them.... why is that??

Still? what world are you living in? to this day once a young man reaches the age of 18 they are required to sign up, were you required to sign up? "I see you've chosen not to answer this" My wife is a 10 year veteran, there should be absolutely carveouts for those who have choose to serve..

and for the record I don't believe women should be serving in combat " my option is based on purely a physical thing"

because you're slow in response.. simple,you take to long.

… what’s goin on in here ?

how'd partner..

Why would I answer a question you already know the answer to? Of course I was not required to sign up for selective service, and I am saying that is wrong.... I agree with you. If women are to be allowed in the military they absolutely should have to as well.

I also agree women should not serve in combat.....

LOL you'll have to take that up with Tallahatchie Valley Power Association......

I just find it hilarious how mad some of you are at ME over consequences resulting from the actions of another.....

So (if you can reason with me) women "which I love them" should be required to serve but not really? do you see the falsie in your argument? There is a difference between men and woman and that was set many, many years ago.. 6,000+ years for me... We all have a roll to play in this game called life, my only request is to ask the actors in this realize there rolls..

that one escapes me. can you explain? As I understand it, as you as agnostic questioning a man who has made a offering you guidance and then you question his guidance...

So, are suggesting women should not be allowed to serve in the military at all?

You seem to be the one with the contradictions here. You complain that women are not required to sign up for selective service, but also say you don't think they should be in combat positions. So what is it that you think??

I think it would be better for them to have to sign up for selective service, even if they won't be placed in combat roles, than to not have to sign up at all, even if it is not the ideal solution. As it stands now, if women were to have to sign up for selective service, they would also be eligible to serve in combat roles....

What is your solution?

Because you know dang well your irritation with me has nothing to do with Dave, or religion, or voting, or women in the military.

You're not going to like my answer,
how about we understand our quality's, our abilities? Understanding the difference between the sexes? There's a difference from serving as a magistrate and a grunt on the front lines.. To honest, you've been lied to through you life, the only rights you have are from men's benevolence..

Is the bridge that Billy Joe Macallister jumped off of in the same area

Yes. I've driven over it often, lol.

OK. But that's not an answer....

That's tough one... but am I wrong?

Give me an answer to the question re: women in the military before going off chasing a different squirrel.....

So , Neuralink …quite the revolutionary idea, eh ?

Before you say ,” meh”, I say consider antibiotics, the colostomy bag, and nuclear medicine. Before that ? We just died.

What you doing coming in here trying to get trains back on track and stuff?

are you asking me should women serve in military? absolute in certain rolls, I'm currently deal with a wife with shoulder issues from being a 20 something welder in the armed forces.. I'm not the man who would diss that service but that's not the same as putting your arse on the front line nor do I agree putting the mothers of the next generation in that position... all I'm asking is that we all understand our rolls...

Blessed are the peacemakers ?

I'm also asking about the selective service thing. Should women be required to do that too?

You know if everything in our environment wasn't set to kills us.. past that genetics come into play..

I'm old school ... NO, women bring forth the next generation.. before man buns and low T..


You do know through history conquering nations killed all males older than the age of 12 don't you?

Ok. Then why were you griping over the fact that I did not have to sign up? I'm still not following your line of logic, if one exists....

Be that as it may, it can’t be denied …

Let me make it simple then, those that aren't required to serve and to go to war shouldn't have a say in it.. is that not logical? and to rebut your argument that you willing to serve but wasn't required... you don't posse the the ability to serve in combat and I'm not referring to your self today, you weren't able to serve when you were 18.. and you are unique in this.

So, are you saying then your wife should not be able to vote since she did not serve in combat? Am I understanding correctly?

I also think you meant to type that I am NOT unique in this? I certainly agree that women do not have the physical capabilities of men, if that is what you are getting at.....

Did you know that prior to WW1, folks who needed a colostomy usually died. The practice became more common after WW1 . It wouldn’t be until the 1950’s that a Dutch nurse came up with the disposable system we have today.

Makes me think of how many burials at sea and unmarked graves occurred after someone reported a bellyache and fever. Within 72 hours they’ll go full on septic and die.

Today ? Might be a few days hospitalization. Might be more . But we have the medical knowledge to address it . Surgical and pharmaceutical.

Still doesn’t diminish our Father. He’s right in the middle of it all.

My wife voluntary signed up, she earned it.. she suffers today because of those decisions but that's my bias option. She served on 6 ships but served in no time of war.. she was a Navy welder... Her and I have many conversation about the same, she's the class of 84 same as me and she'll confess that she's been infused with this thig called feminism.. most women and girls have been,, it's a cancer on our western society..

thanks for the correction, you are right in that.

Ok, so we're back to saying only people that served in the military should have the right to vote? I'd have to give that some more thought, but on the surface, it seems like an idea I could get behind....

Also.... I suppose I may have a few feminist ideas in my head, as I am sure most all women do if they are honest, but I in NO WAY consider myself a feminist. I'm quite traditional in most things....

I find the comment of "most things" quite funny..lol, no shade though.. we are a product of our environment until we decide not to be.. and to bring full circle I think that was Sheepdog was trying to attempt.

As an avid reader of historical accounts, I’ve come to realize just about all historical movies are crap.

You know in Civil War era movies ? The hospital scenes ? All the screams of agony ?

Yeah, well, opium was widely known , widely available, and widely used. They’d pump you up and be high as lords.

Not saying it wouldn’t still suck . But enough opium to breed apathy is still relief.

Aaron, should humans get cancer?

This thread is going full spectrum..

That's just because you don't know me other than my posts on here. Those that know me well would know exactly what I mean.

Yep…in response to Grum’s question.

Why SHOULDN’T we get cancer ? We were born into a sinful world, borne from and with original sin.
Cancer is one of the many we’ve inherited. I hate it. I hate the fact we have to endure it. But it is a consequence.

Incidentally, cancer isn’t always the assumed death sentence, anymore. Still a very scary diagnosis. But not always condemnation, either.

Aaron, would confederates have had access to opium? They didn't even have access to food, lol.

Funny you say that... when you said earlier about everything in our environment being out to kill us...... well, that must be part of God's plan then, right?

Yote I can claim the same, Grum's post have a qualifier ..

Yote, with quoting a bunch of scripture which would mean nothing to you (yeah, that's a dig) there's faults gods on this earth... lower case.. g


this dimension isn't my home.. I'm a renter here,

They actually did ! Through trade routes, they actually had more .

I edited my earlier response.

Honest question, is cancer the will of the Father? Is it so we can learn a lessen? Is it punishment? I just want to know...

Interesting. I've read more about the civil war than probably any other war but never came across anything about opium. Granted, even my reading of civil war material is not all that extensive. I'll remember that for if it ever comes up on Jeopardy, lol.

There is.... what? faults gods? What are those?

My first question is how do you describe belief to the unbelieving?

Have you heard of Lucifer? see now where we're going... not a conversation I want to have with a post christian (lower case c)..

Now, I skipped this question, until you answered mine but now that you did... I will.

I suppose in the truest since, you are not wrong. I find benevolence to be a rather arrogant way to put it though. Most men are certainly physically stronger than most women. That is a simple fact of science. If men did not want women to work..... or vote..... or join the military..... they could have simply beat us into submission and kept us locked in a bedroom....que The Yellow Wallpaper here..... so in that context... you are right.

But ya know.... I sorta like my rights. Some I would give up if I believed it was for the betterment of the country. But some I certainly would not.... and if anyone, man or woman, wants to take them from me.... well they better be a better shot than I am.

OK, so demons, then. I had just never heard the term faults gods before.....

Ohhhhhhhhh did you mean FALSE gods????

That hook has lost its worm .

I have bird dogs who “love” and are very loyal to me . Tripp and Piper. I don’t have to physically discipline them anymore , a simple ‘no’ will suffice.

So , when I return from the store with their food , I don’t explain to them why I returned home with food. I’m not going to explain the internal combustion engine that got me there nor currency/goods exchange.

Welp. That’s how I feel about our Father. Pretend to know His will ? Especially an affliction that knows no boundaries in any sense?
Thank you , no. That’s too big to me, bud. That’d be like trying to explain the engine to German Shorthair Pointer . “ I love you, Father ! But I don’t get it …so, whatever.”.
I’m trying to be a good dog.

I appreciate rebellion, I do.. respect but if I could , let men be men.. let us .. you've been taught a faults doctrine.. I'm just being honest and you certainly can correct me with past facts.. I hang with a guy who tells me women rule the world.. I guess I'm a bit of a murssian,,, show me.

Araron I appreciate your reply but its a bit of a stretch for me to bring my relationships with my dog with my relationship with the creator of everything.. you've failed to answer my question... is cancer the will of the Father? (capital F)

I'm a upland guy who lives in pheasant country (maybe the best in the country) and to be honest I wouldn't trade any human relationship with the relationship I have with my dogs but at the end of the day they're just dogs..

I'm willing to give my salvation testament if you all interested to here..

Yeah, spelling isn't my strong suit.. lol

Of course I want men to be men!! See, this is what I mean when I say you don't know me at ALL. I have ZERO respect for men who allow their spouse to walk all over them. Zero, zip, nada! And if you knew me, you would know that! Soy boys, man bun boys, metrosexuals..... disgust me. I would never be the least bit interested in a man that didn't ACT like a man. I like REAL men... the soldiers, the hunters, the trappers, the farmers, the ruthless business execs, the men who go out there and slap tame the world and make it their own.

That said... I also believe that strong men are attracted to strong women. Men that are intimidated by strong women... men that say some of things you have been (no shade, lol)..... tend to be weak men. Strong men have enough confidence in themselves to not be intimidated by smart, educated, intellectual women. They realize that women like that compliment them, NOT detract from their masculinity.

Women ARE starting to rule the world...... because most women are AWFUL. If they can't sleep their way to the top, then they'll file sexual harassment charges to get there. Don't you lump ME in that group. Anything I accomplish in this world I will EARN.

And for the love of God......... it's FALSE not faults... your lack of command of the English language is confusing me, dang it!

I answered your question.

It may not have been His original design, but certainly is as He wills it. I’m OK with that. Took a long time to make peace with it.

Watching my dogs react to me without speaking and providing their needs was a humbling realization. I have a Master, too. He created me, provided for me , and has brought me through some times of my own doing.
I’m sorry you can’t see yourself in your own dogs . That’s the first reflection you should see.

Us men are a simple creature, all we want is respect.. (today's women don't give it) knowing what I know today I would influence any young men to for go marriage (to much to risk) and as far as women ruling the world they're still going to have to appeal to men for enforcement.. that's just facts. That's force doctrine, argue with all you want that doesn't change the fact..

I spelled one word wrong, typical woman.. you know what I meant...

so cancer is Gods will? can you support that with scripture? honest question.. 50 years ago when a child had cancer, specialist from around the world would come to study such cancer, today it's common place.. I have questions about that.

“The wages of sin is death.”

The minute you’re born in this world? You’re in it .

death and cancer aren't the same and I find that argument is a bit of dishonest.

Is the Father love or is he a tyrant here to serve out punishment, perception has a lot to do with our world view. He has given us free will for a reason.

Force doctrine? Or maybe..........FALSE?

And actually, NO I did NOT know what you meant at first when you said faults gods.... took me a bit to catch on to that, lol.

Not sure I agree on the enforcement part, either. I bet I can outshoot you. )) A woman with a gun that knows how to use it is just as deadly as a man with one. We don't have the physical strength........ but "God created men (and women) and Sam Colt made them equal".

Respect is something that has to be earned....... not just given because you feel you deserve it because of your gender. To be honest..... there is not a SINGLE woman in this world that I respect. But there are several, or maybe even seven, men that I do. But they all earned it. Your posts on this thread are not doing a whole lot to earn my respect, tbh.

Couldn’t be more honest. Cancer’s a lightning bolt. Strikes where it will. I’m still not going to our God who gave us the quark , which we’re still learning about.

And is it that today's women don't give it, or is it that they don't give it to YOU??? Have you given them a reason to respect you? Remember....EARNED....not given....

Cancer is a foreign agent brought us by fellow humans willing or unknowingly.. it's not natural. God didn't create it. Noah lived 800+ years are we not the descendants of Noah? with that said I understand we live in a fallen world and time has sped up..

I know He certainly loves suffering. He does. But he likes to use it as a test. If you’re enough you’ll curse him…or ?…maybe ask him to bless your suffering. Nothing like what Jesus suffered. But asking Him to bless your suffering. Everyone asks for healing…but how about accompanying me . I’m hurting! Walk with me !”.

He loves that. Any Father would.

But, if God is all-powerful, could he not eridacte it entirely with a twitch of his nose?

A funnier thought is, He could have done just that on the Cross.

See ? At any point , He could’ve not chose to. Even under trial, could’ve ended it. Cross ? He submitted to iron and wood His Father created.
He chose it .

Yeah , we were just talking science.

good

You're funny, I shouldn't say this but if you're looking for a qualifier I'm a manager of many men. My respect is earned and if I find one that, that doesn't work for then force doctrine comes onto play.. I've put too many miles on this earth to put up with youthful crap..but that's beside the point of this conversation.. My question is why would you attack me on this premise? You are so predictable..

Thanks for adding to the conversation..

Because you are being ridiculous. And remember, it was not ME that attacked you....it was you that came out of nowhere to attack me because you blame me for your buddy having to pay the consequences of his actions...... So... if it makes ya feel better.... I'm sorry I made a big, bad, tough man answer for his 2nd grade level responses to a man that forgot more by the time he got out of high school than tough man would have ever been capable of learning in his life.... my bad!

What is force doctrine? Oh, did you mean FALSE again? Do any of the men you manage actually respect you if you cannot spell a 5 letter word even after being corrected 4 times?

My God Grumley... I have been trying my very hardest to be completely civil and respectful, but you sure do make it hard.....

this is why I don't argue with women, always the victim..are you crying? My conversation started with you because of you attacking a view point you can't have a opinion on by your own omission and now you attacking me by a miss spelled word.. Difter must be a saint or a beta.. or perhaps he just doesn't care? Keep going, I like to play,,. well until the boss says that's enough..

Crying? I'm LMAO! While also trying to juggle 4 PMs with men asking me just how drunk you are???

No, Grumley, your conversation started with me because of some....... person..... in Kansas who didn't know when to shut up. Just like you, apparently.

Ohhhhhhhh we gonna go personal now? Now come on. You really wanna attack someone who is not even following this thread?

Petty. Are you out of things to debate so now you gotta stoop to personal attacks.....

And you wonder why women won't respect you........

Why would you assume I' drinking because I chose to engage? Sometimes I have my moments and choose too. It's good you've got some simps for encouragement.. and as far as respect from women.. I'm not looking for that.

Oh I didn't. I just figured, mainly based on your spelling, that you were not overly intelligent. I did not think you were drinking.

Simps, huh? You a combat vet, buddy? Two of the people in my PMs are. You wanna call either of them that to their face?? Did you serve at all? If not, that might explain some things. Maybe you are feeling a bit emasculated because your wife has bigger balls than you?

Pattern recognition, buddy. Doesn’t really sound like you.

Probably because of your incoherent rambling.

Well, there is that.

Man hating women are a real thing. We are lucky they are easy to spot. I was in a restaurant awhile back. A couple was ordering. Woman refused to let the man order. Literally said, NO. Man just hung his head.

Divorce court, sexual harassment, alimony, it's not rocket science to see why men are reluctant to marry.

Sexual harassment is a real thing. When a woman tolerates it for months or even years (supposedly) I am cynical. I don't believe her when the claims are years old. To much monetary gain IMO.

The phrase masculine toxicity makes my teeth grind almost as much as white privilege.

I could see this being abused very easily. As long as it's only used for good, it's great.

James 4:1-10

4 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2 You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. 3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

4 You adulterous people,[a] don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think Scripture says without reason that he jealously longs for the spirit he has caused to dwell in us[b]? 6 But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says:

“God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”[c]

7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.

Jude 1:17-19

But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

Proverbs 6:16-19
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16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.Proverbs 6:16-19
New International Version
16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Proverbs 17:14
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14 Starting a quarrel is like breaching a dam;
so drop the matter before a dispute breaks out.

Romans 16:17-18
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17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.

Proverbs 1:7
New International Version
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
but fools[a] despise wisdom and instruction.

Throw in some 2 Timothy 3:1-7 to have understanding of the times we are in.

Apply these scriptures or not, that is why God has given us free will. He loves you and I enough to the point he allows us to choose whether we choose him or this world. Just know, if you choose this world, then you are at enmity with God. God doesnt send anyone to The lake of fire, which was created for Satan and the demons who revolted with him. If you deny the Father, you accept Satan, who is the prince of this earth. Until his time is ended, once for all. your choice determines your eternity. It is a very real thing, heaven and the lake of fire.

2 Peter 3:3-10
3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]

throw it in there brother, been hair lipping crappie all day, and about to head back. caught 67 this morning, in private lakes. the limit is how many you want to clean.