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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: spjones] #8591488
03/30/26 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
From what I’ve been reading,,

It’s more an insurance issue

Iran has been bombed many times and the straight was never closed

Suddenly the insurance companies all have decided not to insure the tankers,,,

The insurance companies are all based out of England,,,,

The question is,,,,, are they doing it to spite the trumpster??

I don’t know the answer or if it’s the real reason,,,

What I do know is,,,,, we aren’t actually getting the true story


… Iran activated the mines in the strait and are able to hit vessels from 100 miles inland with mobile missle launches

… it was known the strait would be closed at the start of this most recent conflict

… they thought the regime would be toppled quickly and Iran doubled down

… so crap is just being thrown up against the wall to see what sticks at this point


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: Savell] #8591489
03/30/26 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Well, Savell, would you prefer to see the strait left closed, than a full regime change?


… naw I was under the impression we took out nuclear capabilities last year and were washing our hands of it to focus on mass deportation

… straight wouldn’t even be closed if that’s what was done



260,000 ytd .......


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591490
03/30/26 10:00 PM
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Ending the war with Iran blocking commerce in the Strait of Hormuz is a huge global economic problem. And leaving all the enriched uranium available to the islamists to make dirty bombs with (even if their to make nuclear weapons has been terminated) is another huge problem.

I just hope those problems can be solved without us being pulled into a protracted war with a lot our boys being killed. Scary times for sure.


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: Savell] #8591491
03/30/26 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by spjones
From what I’ve been reading,,

It’s more an insurance issue

Iran has been bombed many times and the straight was never closed

Suddenly the insurance companies all have decided not to insure the tankers,,,

The insurance companies are all based out of England,,,,

The question is,,,,, are they doing it to spite the trumpster??

I don’t know the answer or if it’s the real reason,,,

What I do know is,,,,, we aren’t actually getting the true story


… Iran activated the mines in the strait and are able to hit vessels from 100 miles inland with mobile missle launches

… it was known the strait would be closed at the start of this most recent conflict

… they thought the regime would be toppled quickly and Iran doubled down

… so crap is just being thrown up against the wall to what sticks at this point



That’s nothing new,,,

Closing the straight has always been a threat,,,

Iran pays the biggest price with the closure

Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591492
03/30/26 10:04 PM
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… little ways to go to get the 10,0000 that are here antigov lol


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591495
03/30/26 10:08 PM
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Spjones … I didn’t say it was anything new … just said they doubled down and the people didn’t rise up take out the regime

…. At this point we’re just spending tax dollars to make more Muslim refugees and terrorists … it’s like we’re in an abusive relationship trying really hard to justify it lol


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: Savell] #8591497
03/30/26 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
… little ways to go to get the 10,0000 that are here antigov lol


20,0000......but going down not up


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591498
03/30/26 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


Discuss whatever you'd like to discuss about it. Just civilly. smile

Just saying no personal attacks on other members, or the President, as those are Paul's rules.


Oh boy. Let's see if I can do this. Please read my summary points in the most civil tone.

I give all respect and thanks to the brave men and women serving in the Middle East.

This is however a foreign war (or whatever it is being called today) that was unnecessary. We have been hearing for decades that Iran is on the verge of having a nuclear weapon. Never happened. We were told that the Iranian nuclear program was "obliterated" last summer. Either that was not true or we had no reason for this "excursion." Whatever Iran did in the 1980s (which oddly is included in the justification) was over forty years ago--not a reason to attack Iran now. Yeah, it sponsors terrorism against Israel but the Saudis attacked us on 9/11 and I guess they are now our pals--not mine, but anyway.

We were promised no more foreign wars and have not heard a consistent reason for entering this one. I will not get into the congressional issues.

We are spending money we do not have. We are $39 Trillion in debt. We added another $3 Trillion over the last year.

We are wrecking our economy and it's going to get worse. Our economy should be booming.

The Democrats are going to crush the Republicans (or whatever they are now) in the mid-terms.

Most importantly, we are risking the lives of our servicemen and women unnecessarily.

And, now we are stuck. No exit plan.

And for what? A distraction from (rhymes with Lepstein) and because of governments in the Middle East who could not give a flip about the US--only using us.

I hope I complied with the rules of discussion. I tried really hard.


Ok, but like Savell, your post focuses on what you think should have been done. The truth is, that ship, or missile or whatever, lol, has sailed.

We are where we are at now. I'm more curious to know what people think should be done from this point forward.


Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait

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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: AntiGov] #8591499
03/30/26 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Savell
… little ways to go to get the 10,0000 that are here antigov lol


20,0000......but going down not up


Y'all's misuse of commas is killing me here, lol. I don't even know what numbers you're attempting to write lol.


Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait

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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591500
03/30/26 10:13 PM
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The only thing posted about so far I believe 100% is we are not getting the whole story.

Distraction from Epstein? Sure enough possible. Stockpiles of enriched uranium? Maybe. Insurance shenanigans? Could be. Propping up the petro dollar? Likely some truth at least to that one. Maybe some truth in all of it.

One thing I'm sure of. Trump says a lot of stuff he never means. Just says it to throw people off. Could have said that to give the muzzies hope that he is losing conviction. Get them to step up missile launches etc. Expose more targets. (A complete guess on my part. I dont have a crystal ball either.)

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willing to end the U.S. military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed, administration officials said,


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591501
03/30/26 10:14 PM
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It's just keeping people on there toes .....lol


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591502
03/30/26 10:14 PM
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Ten million


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591505
03/30/26 10:22 PM
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Distance of the northern border of UAE from sea to sea is about half that of the Panama canal. Not a short term solution but would relinquish the hold over the Straight by Iran in the long run.

Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591507
03/30/26 10:26 PM
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This whole series of events is 100% about the petro dollar, nuetering BRICS, and remaining the worlds reserve currency.

Kicking the snot out of the #1 state sponser of terrorism is just icing on the cake.


Plus, their leadership previously tried to kill Trump, but they were the ones killed in the end.


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591509
03/30/26 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


Ok, but like Savell, your post focuses on what you think should have been done. The truth is, that ship, or missile or whatever, lol, has sailed.

We are where we are at now. I'm more curious to know what people think should be done from this point forward.


Declare victory and leave. Eventually, this will probably happen. Sooner the better.


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: Dirt] #8591511
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


Ok, but like Savell, your post focuses on what you think should have been done. The truth is, that ship, or missile or whatever, lol, has sailed.

We are where we are at now. I'm more curious to know what people think should be done from this point forward.


Declare victory and leave. Eventually, this will probably happen. Sooner the better.



Leaving the strait closed?


Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait

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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591513
03/30/26 10:30 PM
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It's not an easy task for our country.
It's not our interests only.
Believe what you want, it's a personal choice, based on what you have read/heard/or been told to believe.
I find it kind of strange, that the insurance companies are all based in the UK.
If that's true, then the whole world has a problem.
The UK is almost a Muslim country anymore.
Plus the fact that the insurance companies are saying the Strait of Hormuz is loaded with mines!
Here's a question, why is Iran allowing 8-30 ships through the Strait of Hormuz if it's blocked by mines?
There's more going on than anyone here knows about.
Why is Spain not allowing the USA of air traffic over their territory?
Why are the European Pac not backing our country's plans?

You have to decide, weather you want a constant threat to our and our allies countries to continue, or not!


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591514
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It is only closed as
"scorched earth" tactic.


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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: yotetrapper30] #8591515
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Re: Strait of Hormuz [Re: Dirt] #8591516
03/30/26 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
It is only closed as
"scorched earth" tactic.


So you're saying you think that if we declared victory and left, Iran would open it back up on their own?


Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait

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