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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596543
04/09/26 12:04 PM
04/09/26 12:04 PM
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beaverpeeler Offline OP
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That is very true.

My guess is that very little surprises them in the auction room. ...Maybe skunks last June.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: Dirt] #8596545
04/09/26 12:07 PM
04/09/26 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Saskfly
[quote=beaverpeeler]The worst grade for beaver is gd dmg; the "hatter" grade. All the XXL gd dmg sold for $43 on this last sale. The previous sale in June of '25 those same beaver all sold @$16. So it looks like the hatter market is getting active again.

Taking it one step further, you would assume that all the XXL beaver of the better grades would have done at least as well as the gd dmg section. But that did not happen. Some of the western pale lights went for $26, and quite a few Slt dmg went for $40 even.

I'm going to guess that the 4-5 hatter buyers in attendance were waiting for their section (gd dmg) to align more closely to last June, which did not happen. The bidding started at $25 and it rapidly went up.

So....Just like out there on the river reading sign... I kind of like to look for sign on how the market is shaping up for next year.

.....So Boco, are those mink or squirrel tracks I'm seeing? LOL


They ran out of time/quantity to fill there orders and had to bid for the GD DGD stuff. Last year I did a fair bit of my beaver trapping in the winter and had a nice selection that went in, got a top lot beaver from the March sale. This year had a horrible bag of beaver to send in, most was from damage control work. Not as bad as your one chewed up beaver beaverpeeler but a couple were close. My averages for the March 2024-2025 sales are almost the same.

Think both you and Boco are correct, the garment trade set the price for the nicer pelts and the hatter bidders waited, once it got down to the end of the eastern sections they had no choice but to bid.



Couple examples below: March 2026 Sale
All prices CAD

1X RR XDK-BRN 54.00
1X GD DGD 51.30

Lg Select HVY-BRN 47.25
Lg GD DGD 37.80

LM GD SLT XDK-DK 21.60
LM GD DGD 27.00



The upper portion, nicer sections should still be selling for a better average in my opinion. Nice 1X + beavers should be averaging $100, 3X-2X $125 + CAD for the time, material and equipment required to harvest them. That's why I try to get paid twice for them.

Still do not see it as a long term market trend and it would not surprise me if the average drops back down around the $15-$20 USD mark for the next sale.


$1.40 U.S. per inch. Good luck! At least you have standards.


Yeah unfortunately selling fur can be similar to the bar at closing time. If you want some action you take what's available......

Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596632
04/09/26 06:31 PM
04/09/26 06:31 PM
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FHA wasn’t keeping anything a secret about their speculation of prices. This was predicted and they let all the suppliers know…..lol


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596668
04/09/26 07:26 PM
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"We are in the process of developing a current market and promotional column which trappers can log into
to receive real factual market conditions. It will be delivered by a knowledgeable team that is actually in
the business, compiled by our auctioneers and international solicitors. A team made up of those who
know personally all the players in the global fur trade. This we feel is deeply needed because if you’re
outside looking in it’s impossible to have a credible factual account of what really goes on in this global
fur trade."

FHA March 2023.

Does this exist?


Who is John Galt?
Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596672
04/09/26 07:31 PM
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"The hatter price run on beaver was short lived as we
predicted from the start a few years ago. The price
point on the lower end hatter beaver is where it should
be now and the returns to the trappers that harvest
prime pelts and prepare them properly is far and away
higher as it should be. On both our 2025 auctions we
sold big quantities of XL/XXL quality shearing beaver
for $70.00 USD and up. This is what they are worth
if compared to a damaged skin folded in half sold
unfleshed and frozen alongside the road. The interest
in all grades of beaver for all purposes is alive and well
and the buyers have always known that North Bay is
the finest place for the world to source them. "

From FHA Market forecast this season


Who is John Galt?
Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596686
04/09/26 08:11 PM
04/09/26 08:11 PM
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You nailed it dirt.
Not sure if you’re agreeing with me, or if you’re up to something…….but there’s more info out there than the auction house. Do you know any brokers that buy for some big end users?

Last edited by Shakeyjake; 04/09/26 08:14 PM.

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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596703
04/09/26 08:46 PM
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If you want to know which fur are in demand and wanted by the trade you have to attend the fur fairs and find out which kind of garments the big retailers are moving,how many,and prices and designs and the orders they are putting in with the manufacturers.
Mark and Howard attend all the fur fairs and know all the big manufacturers and retailers and designers.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596704
04/09/26 08:48 PM
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Well FHA did just sell 127 Beaver for $70 plus U.S.D.

Last edited by Dirt; 04/09/26 08:51 PM.

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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: Dirt] #8596717
04/09/26 09:09 PM
04/09/26 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"We are in the process of developing a current market and promotional column which trappers can log into
to receive real factual market conditions. It will be delivered by a knowledgeable team that is actually in
the business, compiled by our auctioneers and international solicitors. A team made up of those who
know personally all the players in the global fur trade. This we feel is deeply needed because if you’re
outside looking in it’s impossible to have a credible factual account of what really goes on in this global
fur trade."

FHA March 2023.

Does this exist?

If it does I'm unaware of it. I know they send out market updates form time to time....


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596719
04/09/26 09:11 PM
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I sold a nice passel of coastal blanket beaver for an average of $24.55 in March. If I'd known what FHA had going on three weeks later I could likely have had a whole different avg to look at come June.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596794
04/09/26 11:59 PM
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I think most trappers who ship to the auction knew that fur prices have been rising for several seasons now,and with the numbers of young people in the cities last couple years wearing lots of fur out in the streets that this year was going to be a good one.The demand by the young people was noticeable by a lot of people even those not connected to the trade.But the word was out since last year if you spoke with any local fur manufacturers as well as the bigger ones from Toronto and Montreal a couple of which always attend the FHA convention they were buisier than ever re styling lots of older fur coats and filling orders for new ones,now that fur is back in style and popular with young people everybody wants new furs.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596799
04/10/26 12:18 AM
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Well, hopefully this rise has some legs....Feels like it could.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596821
04/10/26 05:24 AM
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Will probably get some beaver trappers out again. The pressure doesn’t seem to affect me much. The odd bear hunter gets a few for himself, but I don’t see too many spots around where someone set up, and the population by June is has only increased.
It’s a problem I don’t really mind and can “put up with”…….pun intended…..lol


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596891
04/10/26 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Well, hopefully this rise has some legs....Feels like it could.


I'm with you, it appears to be a hatter market. The prices on section 3 more than doubled and the price on better goods was basically the same or up a bit and lower on the bigger better stuff.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596903
04/10/26 10:32 AM
04/10/26 10:32 AM
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If I can count on blanket beaver to bring $40 regardless of damage I'm in real good shape. Back in my early days when we had to buy metal tags for beaver ($1 each) we didn't want kits or damaged beaver using any of those tags. I learned how to avoid most of the kits, but the only way to avoid damaged beaver was to quit trapping them in the latter third of the season.

I always remember an old time beaver trapper telling me nobody had any business trapping beaver after January 15th on the big river.
But if we got a hatter market going like what we saw on this last sale I'm good until the end.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596905
04/10/26 10:43 AM
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lol here, any beaver before mid January isnt near prime. Last two seasons I didn’t set a beaver trap until February.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596907
04/10/26 10:46 AM
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January is the start of breeding season in western Oregon...'nuff said.


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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: beaverpeeler] #8596913
04/10/26 11:09 AM
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Next thing I will be looking at for next year will be some more of the large european fashion houses going back to using fur.
When that happens,and indicators are good since a couple already have,,the sky is the limit.
Fendi has comitted to using 100% furmark by next year.

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Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: mud] #8596949
04/10/26 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mud
lol here, any beaver before mid January isnt near prime. Last two seasons I didn’t set a beaver trap until February.


That would suck lol.
Our beaver are pretty good by mid December.

Re: Analyzing beaver sold catalogue [Re: claycreech] #8596961
04/10/26 02:13 PM
04/10/26 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by claycreech
Originally Posted by mud
lol here, any beaver before mid January isnt near prime. Last two seasons I didn’t set a beaver trap until February.


That would suck lol.
Our beaver are pretty good by mid December.


Our best beaver are middle of December until mid to late January. Get's dicey after that, some good ones, some bit up ones, and many starting to thin out on the necks a little.


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