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nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... #8597172
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I happened to see this as a suggestion on my browser page yesterday, not that I read "SF Gate" on any regular basis.

Me thinks maybe a bit preemptive "somebody else did it" instead of the real possibility the state agency people (and any private helpers) just didn't get all of the invasive nutria to begin with in the recent past. So what if the nute DNA shows it came from central Oregon, maybe the original introduction came from there.

Anyway, maybe get some of the homeless junkies out in the wetlands chasing down and catching nutes. Might be a good way to detox or just have such "citizens" just "go away". A win either way...

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/arti...8180.php?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us


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Re: nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... [Re: NonPCfed] #8597199
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Slightly inaccurate. Central Oregon doesn't support a nutria population, too cold. Would have been western Oregon.

Just an aside, since so many Californians have moved north (an invasive thing in itself) maybe it's only fair we send some invasives down south.


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Re: nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... [Re: NonPCfed] #8597205
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I guess I just assumed Central north/south on the coast of Oregon without even thinking about it, because I knew nutria were only on the coast.

Re: nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... [Re: NonPCfed] #8597206
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Coast and especially in the Willamette valley 50-60 miles inland.


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Re: nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... [Re: NonPCfed] #8597208
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Nutria is the least of California’s problems.

Re: nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... [Re: NonPCfed] #8597220
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Slightly inaccurate. Central Oregon doesn't support a nutria population, too cold. Would have been western Oregon.


Yeah, I should have called that out. I know from you nute catchers that its only west of the Cascades where nutria are found in Oregon.

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Just an aside, since so many Californians have moved north (an invasive thing in itself) maybe it's only fair we send some invasives down south.


Touche!!


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How did nutria get to Oregon?

I thought all the ones down here originated from some escaped zoo specimens from LA?

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I'm pretty sure they were purposely introduced into western Oregon for fur after they established themselves in LA.

Somebody didn't think the Cajuns should have all the fun back in the day.


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The story I have always heard in OR and WA is they were brought in for fur farming and escaped or were turned loose when the market for them collapsed.

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My understanding is that they were first introduced to Louisiana in the early 1930s for fur farming, (and as a meat source later). In the early 1940s, a hurricane hit the state, and among the damage caused the destruction of several nutria operations, resulting in nutria escaping. There were also many nutria releases owing to the collapse of fur markets.
Also, in the '30s fur boom, they were introduced in Oregon, Washington, Michigan, and Maryland.
As far as I know, there are no nutria in Maryland or Michigan anymore. of course they are abundant in Louisiana, and as beaverpeeler said, the western part of Oregon has a very large population. Not sure about Washington, but sure could be nutria in the southwestern coastal and Columbia River Basin areas of that state.
I find it interesting that the San Juaquin Valley in California would have a population that is expanding. That area is industrial agriculture and would think that any nutria problems would be addressed and neutralized rather quickly.


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Re: nutes "back" in Cali land, "its not our fault"... [Re: NonPCfed] #8597366
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There was some money made in Oregon on nutria. They were brought in from South America and breeding pairs were advertised and sold here. There were several different color phases just like mink.

I used to occasionally catch some of those beautiful silky black ones in certain locations. Haven't caught one of those in probably 25-30 years now.

Game commission has harvest reports showing the first wild caught ones in the early-mid 50's...just about the time the beaver market had collapsed. Not a coincidence.


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Originally Posted by alaska viking
My understanding is that they were first introduced to Louisiana in the early 1930s for fur farming, (and as a meat source later). In the early 1940s, a hurricane hit the state, and among the damage caused the destruction of several nutria operations, resulting in nutria escaping. There were also many nutria releases owing to the collapse of fur markets.
Also, in the '30s fur boom, they were introduced in Oregon, Washington, Michigan, and Maryland.
As far as I know, there are no nutria in Maryland or Michigan anymore. of course they are abundant in Louisiana, and as beaverpeeler said, the western part of Oregon has a very large population. Not sure about Washington, but sure could be nutria in the southwestern coastal and Columbia River Basin areas of that state.
I find it interesting that the San Juaquin Valley in California would have a population that is expanding. That area is industrial agriculture and would think that any nutria problems would be addressed and neutralized rather quickly.


Nutria are in most streams of SW WA. In the Puget Sound they are spotty but locally found all the way to B.C.. I understand there are even some in lower B.C. close to the border. In the 50s there was a hard freeze that everyone thought they were killed off in The Puget Sound, but they eventually came back. Some reports of them up the Columbia as far as Yakima. There are bounties on them in some areas.

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There are, or were as of 20 some years ago, nutria in sothwest Washington. Mainly down towards the Columbia but I knew of a few up as far as Adna and Chehalis.

I always heard they were brought in during the Depression for fur, whether fur farms originally or just released into the wild I don't know. I also don't know if they were released in Washington or just in Oregon around the Columbia and moved north. Oregon and Washington supposedly have the best nutria in the world. Because they can't live under ice (why anyone would attempt to raise/plant them in Michigan I've no idea) and the Oregon and Washington population is the furthest north population in the world.

Fun fact about nutria for those who don't know, the females have their teats on their backs, so the young can nurse while swimming.

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Fun fact about nutria for those who don't know, the females have their teats on their backs, so the young can nurse while swimming.

yep. Learned that on the first one I tried fleshing. I wasn't very good a fleshing back then, (not an expert now, either!), and managed a couple holes right off. Once I figured out paying attention to that area it went a little better.


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Just as an aside, northern Italy is also plagued with the nasty things!


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How darest you cast the word "nasty" on those beloved rodents that helped put you through college!

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Neat to hear all these stories.

I'm glad I started this thread.

We'll never have nutria here. I just hope to see one more muskrat boom (at least animals) in southeast SD before I die or I'm too worn out to put on a pair of waders wink grin grin


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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Fun fact about nutria for those who don't know, the females have their teats on their backs, so the young can nurse while swimming.

yep. Learned that on the first one I tried fleshing. I wasn't very good a fleshing back then, (not an expert now, either!), and managed a couple holes right off. Once I figured out paying attention to that area it went a little better.


Yessir. In fact nutrias were measured during the boom years of the late 70's early 80's from the lower lip to the bung. We would skin up the backside of the legs to get a bigger belly flap. You could have big gaping holes on the back and still have a #1 pelt if the belly was clear.

36" was XXL, 30" XL, 26" L Right around 1979-80 I was getting $16, $14, and $12 respectively for those sizes

To this day I leave lower lips on most cased skinned critters out of habit.


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