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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Yes sir] #8600155
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by washxc
The Boundary Waters bring in over $1 billion in annual revenues and support roughly 17,000 jobs. All of that revenue comes from people visiting one of the last true wildnerness areas in the country. What about those jobs? That's more than the mine is proposing. And it don't run out when the copper runs dry.


How much of that is the mine going to take away

Answer; none.


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600159
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If the federal and state environmental agencies monitor and regulate the mine half as much as they do large cattle feeding operations and the gas and oil industry id bet there won't be any large scale or environmental changing pollution happening.

Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: 160user] #8600165
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by PAskinner
There's things more important than money. We don't have to develop every wilderness area or cut down all old growth timber. Trappers and fisherman of all people should be for conserving the remaining wilderness. It doesn't take much pollution to change the ecosystem and ruin it for fish.



Prior to 1978 much of this was private land with resorts and businesses within it. After the USFS took control of it, the buildings were either torn down or burned in place. All of these sites were simply "hidden" from the public. They still exist today along with cars and trucks as well as one below ground "visible" gas pump and tanks as of the last time I was there about 5 years ago. The bulk of the BW that is seen is from the water and very little of the ground is actually seen by man.



He just did a quick Google search and basically copied the first paragraph. Dig deeper it isn't quite just what it says.

Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600170
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When there is no place left with clean water you,your children and grandchildren can drink out of the mine arsenic slime dams.

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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600173
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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Boco] #8600187
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Originally Posted by Boco
When there is no place left with clean water you,your children and grandchildren can drink out of the mine arsenic slime dams.

Is safe clean drinking water becoming an increasing problem? I know some dryer regions suffer because of overall availability but im not sure polluted water is really much of an issue here in the USA. Has mining ruined the drinking water in your area?

Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Boco] #8600231
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Originally Posted by Boco
When there is no place left with clean water you,your children and grandchildren can drink out of the mine arsenic slime dams.



We will just pipe clean water in from the Great Mother Canada.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600232
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Mines are known to pollute water.
Big nickle mine opening up in the next few years at the headwaters of a drainage on one of my traplines.
They have already informed all the stakeholders the river will be polluted with heavy metal.
Mines are important as I said my son is a miner,but there are certain places where they dont need to be.
The nickle mine is not polluting a source of any town drinking water,but I wont be eating fish out of that particular river in a few years when the mine starts producing.


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Boco] #8600236
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Originally Posted by Boco
Mines are known to pollute water.
Big nickle mine opening up in the next few years at the headwaters of a drainage on one of my traplines.
They have already informed all the stakeholders the river will be polluted with heavy metal.
Mines are important as I said my son is a miner,but there are certain places where they dont need to be.
The nickle mine is not polluting a source of any town drinking water,but I wont be eating fish out of that particular river in a few years when the mine starts producing.

So, either you go fish somewhere else or they try to mine nickel somewhere else? Tis a quandary. Do you, typically, fish where there are no fish?


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Boco] #8600237
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Originally Posted by Boco
Mines are known to pollute water.
Big nickle mine opening up in the next few years at the headwaters of a drainage on one of my traplines.
They have already informed all the stakeholders the river will be polluted with heavy metal.
Mines are important as I said my son is a miner,but there are certain places where they dont need to be.
The nickle mine is not polluting a source of any town drinking water,but I wont be eating fish out of that particular river in a few years when the mine starts producing.


What company is opening the mine, Boco?


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600244
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Canada Nickle.


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Yes sir] #8600246
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Boco
When there is no place left with clean water you,your children and grandchildren can drink out of the mine arsenic slime dams.

Is safe clean drinking water becoming an increasing problem? I know some dryer regions suffer because of overall availability but im not sure polluted water is really much of an issue here in the USA. Has mining ruined the drinking water in your area?

Yes, safe drinking water is definitely becoming a problem. Des Moines has the largest nitrate removal system in the world, and has to run the system more every year.

Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600247
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Another bad water polluter is agriculture.
A bunch of people were killed in a small southern Ontario town a few years ago from e-coli that got into the town drinking water from cattle.
Papermills also bad polluters.
In north western Ontario a bunch of people were poisoned from mercury in the river systems.
That was back in the 70s and fish are still loaded with mercury in NW Ontario in those systems.

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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600249
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Agriculture is responsible for Iowa's nitrate problem.

Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: Boco] #8600256
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Originally Posted by Boco

They have already informed all the stakeholders the river will be polluted with heavy metal.
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So MNR sent out a letter stating they were going to pollute the water with heavy metals? Can you post a copy of the letter or email?


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: 160user] #8600257
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Boco

They have already informed all the stakeholders the river will be polluted with heavy metal.
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So MNR sent out a letter stating they were going to pollute the water with heavy metals? Can you post a copy of the letter or email?


I think he was saying the company, Canada Nickel, did. Which also seems quite unlikely to me.


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600258
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They had to disclose everything in their impact benefit agreement with the FN,or they would not have been able to proceed.FN is a major shareholder/owner of the mine.

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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600273
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For those who don't like mines,start living with the Amish.


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600280
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^^^^^
Or if you're really serious about saving the planet; the bushmen of sub sahara Africa.


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Re: Bad For The Boundary Waters? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8600340
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But we need to mine these metals so we can go all electric and save the planet from climate change.

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