You have to at least give us a clue?





















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Cop out?

I think it has to be a case of "follow the money." Someone or some group of politicians, union leaders and/or company directors stand to benefit financially and/or politically or in some other significant way.

The bailing out of private industry is certainly not anything I want my government involved in. Yes, I realize we are way past that.

I did not read the article. I can't access the WSJ without signing up.

So you are aware of Paul's rules about bashing our President but you couldn't help yourself and made your ignorant comment despite that.

Then when ask to elaborate your duck back down your TDS hole and hide.

SMH is not a compliment. It means shaking my head, which I am doing right now.

Angela, you know the answer to your question.

Back in 08 when I was building car parts at a 1200 person factory we were sure grateful they bailed out the auto industry. The city is already dying enough from loss of business and that would have been the final nail. GM still left Dayton.

The one thing I will say here is that no one seems to grasp how many businesses were in Dayton supporting the GM plant that no longer has work b/c GM left. You don't just lose the jobs at GM. Businesses an hour away are still effected.

Yes, them printing money to bail them or anyone out increases inflation (I assume that is your concern?) but then we make good money in the stock market and increased home value so it kind of depends how you personally are effected if its good or bad right?

I think Trump even said a weak dollar is bad for the economy but good for making money. Its more of a give and take back and forth over time I think. I guess that's basically the argument and why it keeps going around and around right?

Is it really any different from folks on welfare/ disability?

Meaning the socialist part,,,,

Well see thats part of the problem too. Welfare is good you can't just get rid of welfare. There are people that really need welfare. I assume you have issues with the people that are abusing welfare, not welfare itself. You don't have a problem with disabiltiy, there are people with real disabilities. You have a problem with people abusing disability I assume? There is usually good and bad in everything and blanket statements are tough. All of welfare is bad? All of unions are bad? All bailouts are bad? There is usually more to it if you break it down.

Trying to justify corporate welfare?

Central planning and government intervention always fails,,, eventually

Railing against government intervention,,,, while being supported by the government

Is an all to common issue

Privatize gains, socialize losses.

Of course I do, Steven.





I posted the entire article, so if you read the post, you read the article.




No. My concern is the socialisation of private corporations. Government has no right to take a stake in privately owned businesses. That, IMO, is even worse than just "bailing them out" and that is what is being proposed here. It is straight up socialism. This isn't an issue where my concern is my bottom line. This goes against my entire moral foundation.





No. Some things really are black and white. All welfare is bad, all unions are bad, all bailouts are bad. I DO have issues with welfare itself.... with disability itself. Yes, some people need welfare and yes some need disability, but that does NOT make it the responsibility of all. Charity should be the purview of voluntary associations, not compulsory government programs that rely on coercive taxation. One could even argue that government mandated charity makes a country much less organically charitable. Why would people or corporations wish to be charitable when the government is already seizing whatever they deem fit to redistribute in whatever manner they feel appropriate?

The real kicker about this Spirit Airlines deal is that it was completely preventable, had the government not once again inserted itself into the free market and ridiculously blocked the merger of Spirit and Jet Blue a few years back.......

I read the post, didn’t realize that was the entire article.

Good luck with that.

“We’re from the government, we are here to help.”

The government doesn't care if I fail. But I haven't made millions in contributions to the parties, above or below the table, either.

Should have let some auto manufacturers fail back in the day as well. Since now all they build are super high price computer chips on 4 wheels with tons of electronics nobody needs and that lock you out of being able to do any work on them yourself.

Absolutely first thing they did was close the Saturn plant which made higher quality less expensive vehicles a direct competition for GM's junk The only place the big 3 were failing was Detroit Every big business is a "Non-Profit" whether its a hospital ,insurance company or financial holdings So if they don't make money they file for a bailout if they do the top corporate level recieves hefty bonuses nothing trickles down to the staff or consumer

You did read the part about the previous administration blocking a way for them to try and stay solvent on their own didn't you?

If he did he probably did not understand.