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Longest running lure maker #8607940
05/05/26 03:09 PM
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What luremaker/company/family holds the title as the longest running original brand right now still cooking in house?

I'm talking still making their own recipes (or directly overseeing production) and is halfway "in the family". I know you can order EJ Dailey or Hawbaker stuff, but obviously it's a passed down or bought recipe not in the same family or company.

I respect the guys who learned side by side before taking the reigns, and many do a great job keeping the quality standard up, but I'd like to know what brand is currently the Old Guard.

The 1980's was 40+ yrs ago, fur crash had to thin a lot out. How many are still trucking since then with original "bloodlines" ?


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8607955
05/05/26 03:56 PM
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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8607974
05/05/26 04:28 PM
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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Gary Benson] #8607976
05/05/26 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8607978
05/05/26 04:39 PM
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I would have to say it might be O’Gorman, but I don’t know how much of his lures are original or formulas he bought or acquired.

One who has been making lure with original formulas for well over 40 years is Jeff Robinson of JR & Sons.

Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: wissmiss] #8607979
05/05/26 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
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… Mr Paul doesn’t strike me as someone who could run for very long


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Savell] #8608000
05/05/26 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by wissmiss
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… Mr Paul doesn’t strike me as someone who could run for very long


Well I for one, dont care if he walks or runs. Just be sure that his good stuff is around as long as I'm able to walk or run, lol, hopefully longer.


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608008
05/05/26 06:03 PM
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Hawbakers been around since the 20's or 30's

Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608027
05/05/26 06:46 PM
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Lenons maybe, yaa Paul and O'gormans are right up .


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608043
05/05/26 07:41 PM
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… I don’t know…. Mark June always seems like he’s hopped up on something…. I’d say he’d be the longest running lure maker …. Likely go all Forrest Gump with it if got the mind to


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: rick olson] #8608045
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Originally Posted by rick olson
Hawbakers been around since the 20's or 30's

Agreed

Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608050
05/05/26 07:51 PM
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Hawbakers and Lenons have changed hands.


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Tim Caven has been at it a while.


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608057
05/05/26 07:58 PM
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Savell have you seen him lately?
He’s been on a diet and he’s half the man he used to be.
We are going to half the start calling him “Skinny Bossman”


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608060
05/05/26 08:02 PM
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Mr Paul doesn’t strike me as someone who could run for very long

Should of seen him chasing a guy into a camper who had to fend him off with a mounted fisher! lol.

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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608065
05/05/26 08:11 PM
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… got to hear that story now


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608123
05/05/26 09:28 PM
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… when I say tell a story…. You best tell it boy


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: backroadsarcher] #8608210
05/06/26 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
Originally Posted by rick olson
Hawbakers been around since the 20's or 30's

Agreed


Hawbakers was sold maybe 10 years ago. I believe Sterling Fur bought the name, but I could be misremembering that.

Anyhow, it’s not the same lure. For decades Hawbakers Red Fox 100 Gland Lure was my number one fox lure.

After the sale, the smell, consistency and effectiveness changed dramatically. I quit using it soon after that.


Eh...wot?

Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608278
05/06/26 09:22 AM
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MR Paul Dobbins I bet is right up there with the longest tenure of family run lure making...


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608290
05/06/26 09:43 AM
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Kind of what I thought, but I wasn't around back then to know and I'm not in the industry to know who sold to who and when.

I was imagining Dobbins, Carmans, Marsyada, Jameson, Cavens would all be up there


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608310
05/06/26 10:42 AM
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51 years for our business this year.

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05/06/26 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
51 years for our business this year.


Stud!
I smelled like you yesterday. Felt good.


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608365
05/06/26 12:37 PM
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Pete Rickard since 1929.
Great change up beaver lure.


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Vinke] #8608371
05/06/26 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
Pete Rickard since 1929.


I thought his son sold it?


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608372
05/06/26 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Axe Camp
Originally Posted by Vinke
Pete Rickard since 1929.


I thought his son sold it?


I googled it and you are correct.


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608373
05/06/26 01:01 PM
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How many years has Dobbins lures been made now?

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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608446
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I don't know who is the longest, but I don't feel we should discredit or not give a good nod to those who take on the old lines and continue their great work. They take on risks in doing so and they help provide us with good products and diversity.

Bryce

Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608605
05/06/26 09:11 PM
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I believe this is a stupid question. How many has collected glands and made their own lures and baits. Fox urine and glands are a gland lure that is used the next year. People have been trying for years to find anything that would draw an animal to the set. Either that or blind sets for traps or snare. The question should be who was in business .

Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608610
05/06/26 09:18 PM
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I didn't start making Dobbins' Lures until 1997 after dad passed in that year. So, I've only been at it for about 29 years.


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608662
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I assumed your dad was selling lure as Dobbins brand before that.


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05/06/26 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Axe Camp
I assumed your dad was selling lure as Dobbins brand before that.



Yes, he started sometime in the 70s, but I don't know exactly when.


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Originally Posted by Edwin W Cowden J
I believe this is a stupid question. How many has collected glands and made their own lures and baits. Fox urine and glands are a gland lure that is used the next year. People have been trying for years to find anything that would draw an animal to the set. Either that or blind sets for traps or snare. The question should be who was in business .


Noted. I'll be sure to run my posts by you next time.


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Originally Posted by Edwin W Cowden J
I believe this is a stupid question. How many has collected glands and made their own lures and baits. Fox urine and glands are a gland lure that is used the next year. People have been trying for years to find anything that would draw an animal to the set. Either that or blind sets for traps or snare. The question should be who was in business .

Odd post you made here Mr. Cowden.....


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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by wissmiss
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… Mr Paul doesn’t strike me as someone who could run for very long

Or far! LOL laugh


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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608952
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Re: Longest running lure maker [Re: Rusty Axe Camp] #8608984
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When I started in late 70s to early 80s trapping coyotes, mink, coon, and beaver…
My bag had bottles of lures and baits from hawbaker, Carmen’s, blackies blend, and grawes.
It’s not too tough to find these brands around today.
Back then I had to buy it at fall conventions or get my hands on a mail order catalogue and send them a check.
My local fur buyer carried a few bottles but not many options.
I still lean hard on these same brands, probably from familiarity and confidence more than anything.
I use different baits today. I like grahams and keg creek, or stuff from Bruce.
But if I do buy lure, I still reach for that old short list above.
Carmen’s canine call and blackies red ranger always had a place on my coyote line. So did Carmen’s mink gland lure as a change up.
For beaver and coon I reached for blackies stuff it was solid. I started buying dobbins beaver lures when I started on this forum and I’m sorry but I don’t recall when I actually joined. I met Charlie at the national convention when it was in Nebraska WAY back when. Was so impressed with his knowledge and how I could barely keep up with him walking across the field for a demo. I was a young dude and he was older but wow was he in good shape. I Still have his signed land trapping book. It’s pretty tattered and well thumbed but it is my predator trapping bible. I asked Charlie some questions once in a letter to him and he wrote me a letter back. I could barely read his handwriting but it was solid advice and I cherished the fact he wrote me back. Black always wrote me back too. Carrol gave me some great advice on converting a dirthole to a post set by just simply shoving a stick in the hole and adding a shot of coyote pee. It’s been a huge back pocket trick I’ve used for so many, many years when dirtholes wouldn’t produce. Such a simple but awesome piece of advice. And, I’ll buy Paul’s beaver lure any day. Beaver, cats, coyotes, coon, I haven’t found anything that doesn’t find it attractive. It’s money in a bottle.
Good thread, thanks for starting this.
Jim

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Originally Posted by Edwin W Cowden J
I believe this is a stupid question. How many has collected glands and made their own lures and baits. Fox urine and glands are a gland lure that is used the next year. People have been trying for years to find anything that would draw an animal to the set. Either that or blind sets for traps or snare. The question should be who was in business .


I was brought up to believe there wasn't such a thing as "stupid questions," only stupid answers.

Thank you for reaffirming my beliefs.


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I didn't start trspping until I was old enough to drive with the "farm permit" in the mid 80s.
I distinctly remember drooling over adds for Lennon, Hawbacker, Carmen, & Milligan. I've sure added to my arsenal since then (shout out to Jameson, Dobbins, John Graham's Fur Country line, and Ed Schnieder's KS Trapline Products) but still catch critters with those first formulas I learned to love as well.


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Not to go off-track but is Grawes still being made since he passed away?

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Grawe’s is still being made but this will be a line to watch. I was given to understand Gary Jepson owned or partly owned that lure line now.

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Grawes coon bait had a different odor but it was a good bait. Took a few late winter coyotes on that stuff too.
Jim


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