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Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: WI Outdoors] #8610171
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… I guess you’re talking about the Middle East God the Muslims and Hebrews believe in

…. I’m just not sure … I’m of European descent so my ancestors believed differently until Christianity was mandated and people were killed into compliance

…. It’s just complicated to me


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Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: WI Outdoors] #8610174
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Sure the true religion was perverted by Constantine's forced conversion. However, before that took place Christianity was still growing even though Emperors such as Nero burning Christians alive to illuminate his gardens. Must be something to it.

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Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: J Staton] #8610176
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Sure the true religion was perverted by Constantine's forced conversion. However, before that took place Christianity was still growing even though Emperors such as Nero burning Christians alive to illuminate his gardens. Must be something to it.


…. Like I said … it’s complicated

… could be argued we conquered the earth and put the Muslims and Hebrews into submission with our Gods

… now post conversion they are getting the upper hand

… we’re weak now


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Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: WI Outdoors] #8610179
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Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: J Staton] #8610195
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No, I’ll start believing in God when I stop seeing kids with cancer, violent crimes, atrocities, genocides, suffering you name it. Any God that has a divine plan for all of us and inflicts that kind of suffering on the innocent is someone I have no interest in walking with or believing in. I sure would like a believer to explain that one to me. Until then, I’ll take my chances on being wrong and an eternity in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).

Most of what you mentioned are man on man atrocities, God has nothing to do with it. Assuming atheist believe man is nothing more than an animal, diseases such as cancer are merely natural ways of curtailing the population indiscriminate of age.


God has nothing to do with it? The all knowing, all seeing, has a plan for your life and will guide you through that plan guy has nothing to do with those things mentioned in my original post but has complete control over the things mentioned above? You pray to him to ask him for something or to heal someone and think your prayers were answered when those things happen but it was out of his control and just natural selection when the person you prayed to God to heal didn’t get healed? So he has control of everything or nothing?

Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: WI Outdoors] #8610198
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… that’s another hang up of mine rock

… almost like a sadist if he exists

… very strange religion in my opinion


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Re: Yes or no. Do you believe in God? [Re: WI Outdoors] #8610202
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If I’m remembering my Protestant upbringing correctly

… the Old Testament says only Jews could go to heaven as they’re the chosen people

… everyone else burned for eternity

… then in the New Testament God changed his mind and said us sorry gentiles were allowed an opportunity if we believed in Jesus his son

… I feel sorry for the poor folk that died before God changed his position lol


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Rockcrick I may pray for someone's healing but understand that ultimately it is God's will whether they be healed or not. I'm fine with that.
If I were an atheist I would have know problem understanding that human diseases are no different than other animal diseases. I wouldn't curse natural selection.
As for predestination, God may ultimately know what your going to do in life but allows you the free will to choose your path. So you decide whether you are going to punch someone in the mouth, not God. He simply knows before hand what you will choose.

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Originally Posted by Savell
If I’m remembering my Protestant upbringing correctly

… the Old Testament says only Jews could go to heaven as they’re the chosen people

… everyone else burned for eternity

… then in the New Testament God changed his mind and said us sorry gentiles were allowed an opportunity if we believed in Jesus his son

… I feel sorry for the poor folk that died before God changed his position lol


Although found in the New Testament, but before the New Covenant, a Samaritan woman accepted the "water that forever satisfies".
Rahab, a Canaanite prostitute, went to Heaven. Find her story in the Old Testament book of Joshua.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
Rockcrick I may pray for someone's healing but understand that ultimately it is God's will whether they be healed or not. I'm fine with that.
If I were an atheist I would have know problem understanding that human diseases are no different than other animal diseases. I wouldn't curse natural selection.
As for predestination, God may ultimately know what your going to do in life but allows you the free will to choose your path. So you decide whether you are going to punch someone in the mouth, not God. He simply knows before hand what you will choose.


You just proved my point. You said it’s God’s will if someone gets healed or not. That sure sounds to me like he has control and could heal an infant with brain cancer if he wanted to. So it’s a toss up between it’s all made up and there is no existence of God in the form you describe (or more likely not at all) or he likes to watch people suffer and let innocent infants die from terrible diseases, accidents, neglect or whatever it is.

As per your statement on predestination, So God knows that someone is going to choose to commit an atrocity but has no power to stop it? But everything is his plan? If he is making the plan then why choose that outcome?

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