No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum ~ Live Chat

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609768
Yesterday at 08:24 AM
Yesterday at 08:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2024
AR
J
J Staton Offline
trapper
J Staton  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Dec 2024
AR
What has happened in Arkansas is that someone in California can sell their two bedroom house for a million dollars, move to Arkansas, and pay for a house in full with money left over. Where as a guy in Arkansas can sell his house and move to Mississippi and he may profit enough to take the family out to dinner at Taco Bell. So for native residents of Arkansas, with native wages, we not only experienced standard inflation but west coast invasion inflation also. Now what was once a $60,000 house ten years ago, is now a $160,000 house.

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609769
Yesterday at 08:27 AM
Yesterday at 08:27 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
alberta
S
spjones Offline
trapper
spjones  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Feb 2011
alberta
If you can’t build a shed, addition, home on your own property with out government approval

You truly don’t own it

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: spjones] #8609771
Yesterday at 08:34 AM
Yesterday at 08:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2024
AR
J
J Staton Offline
trapper
J Staton  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Dec 2024
AR
Originally Posted by spjones
If you can’t build a shed, addition, home on your own property with out government approval

You truly don’t own it




We have property taxes, we just rent our paid for land. lol

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609778
Yesterday at 08:46 AM
Yesterday at 08:46 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
alberta
S
spjones Offline
trapper
spjones  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Feb 2011
alberta
Ya, same here,,

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: J Staton] #8609779
Yesterday at 08:49 AM
Yesterday at 08:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
SEPA
L
Lugnut Offline
trapper
Lugnut  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Dec 2006
SEPA
Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by spjones
If you can’t build a shed, addition, home on your own property with out government approval

You truly don’t own it




We have property taxes, we just rent our paid for land. lol


X 2

And if you don’t pay your property taxes, at least here in Pennsylvania, they will forcibly remove you from your home and sell it to the highest bidder.


Eh...wot?

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609788
Yesterday at 09:03 AM
Yesterday at 09:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
South shore L.I. N.Y.
G
gcs Offline
trapper
gcs  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
South shore L.I. N.Y.
Not Californians, but NYC people. Same thing though, they create the demand and the price goes through the roof....people buying a "cheap" house for the lot, then tear down the house....open lots that are left going as high as a million bucks, then the builder puts a 2 million plus house on it....This place has changed big time, and not for the better...

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8609869
Yesterday at 11:49 AM
Yesterday at 11:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
D
Dirt Offline
trapper
Dirt  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
[Linked Image]


It's not $8 coffees.

Edit- graph may be hard to read but the red bar is price adjusted for inflation


The evolution of the American house can be seen in every small town in America. The average square footage has more than doubled Lots are bigger and complexity of the structures and landscaping is absurd. The best part is families are smaller. People are not buying shelter, they are buying an investment. The winner is the guy who collects property taxes and sells the homeowners insurance .


Who is John Galt?
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609889
Yesterday at 12:48 PM
Yesterday at 12:48 PM
Joined: May 2010
MN
S
Steven 49er Offline
trapper
Steven 49er  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: May 2010
MN
Long term home ownership is a poor investment


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: Steven 49er] #8609937
Yesterday at 02:54 PM
Yesterday at 02:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
midland, michigan
M
midlander Offline
trapper
midlander  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Nov 2012
midland, michigan
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Long term home ownership is a poor investment


Nah...

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8609941
Yesterday at 03:02 PM
Yesterday at 03:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
midland, michigan
M
midlander Offline
trapper
midlander  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Nov 2012
midland, michigan
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by midlander

Let me correct you...you have 30 year olds that buy $8 coffees on their way to work, get home and turn on their $150 a month cable TV, go out to eat 3 times a week, go to the movies or honkey tonk every weekend, drive $700+ a month brand new status symbol vehicles, pay someone else $80 to change there oil because they dont know how or are too lazy......the list goes on. Young folk cant afford housing because they are pee poor with their finances and cant decipher between wants and needs.... rant over


Do you really believe the only thing holding young people back from home ownership is $8 coffees and cable TV? Do you think the prospects for the average up and coming 20/30 year Olds are equal or better than the boomers had it?


As I said, the list goes on...and yes I do. Young folks have terrible financial habits from what Ive seen. Ive known so many young couple that get married and immediately want everything that their parents have, too ignorant to understand it took their parents a lifetime to get where they are at. Savell gave perfect example of young kid going into debt for a toy...promise you that isnt the last toy he'll likely go in debt for. Do stupid things with your money and then whine about how tough it is to buy a house....decisions have consequences.

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: Steven 49er] #8609951
Yesterday at 03:42 PM
Yesterday at 03:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
MN
D
Donnersurvivor Offline
trapper
Donnersurvivor  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Jan 2018
MN
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Long term home ownership is a poor investment


Maybe if your strictly a numbers person with little emotion... my farm has been a terrible investment from a numbers standpoint, Great lifestyle though and good for raising kids that end up "normal". There's a peace that comes with owning a home, what's the price of peace?


Chief of staff @ Mensa Tree division/vison officer
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609957
Yesterday at 04:02 PM
Yesterday at 04:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
D
Dirt Offline
trapper
Dirt  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Governments run on emotion Their numbers are not so good either.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8609986
Yesterday at 05:24 PM
Yesterday at 05:24 PM
Joined: May 2010
MN
S
Steven 49er Offline
trapper
Steven 49er  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: May 2010
MN
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Long term home ownership is a poor investment


Maybe if your strictly a numbers person with little emotion... my farm has been a terrible investment from a numbers standpoint, Great lifestyle though and good for raising kids that end up "normal". There's a peace that comes with owning a home, what's the price of peace?


A person needs a home. The memories made from raising a family in a home is priceless.

Homes are expensive to own, when people sell them they talk about the money they made. Most most forget about taxes, insurance and up keep.


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8609999
Yesterday at 05:53 PM
Yesterday at 05:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Rochester, MN
Teacher Offline
trapper
Teacher  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2010
Rochester, MN
There’s much to be said both for and against this article. Against might consider the “too much government” that DOGE was created to get us out of. In the end, we laid off tax collectors. Then hired them back, to collect the government’s share of business taxes and loans.


Never too old to learn
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: Teacher] #8610012
Yesterday at 06:27 PM
Yesterday at 06:27 PM
Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30 Offline OP
trapper
yotetrapper30  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
Originally Posted by Teacher
There’s much to be said both for and against this article. Against might consider the “too much government” that DOGE was created to get us out of. In the end, we laid off tax collectors. Then hired them back, to collect the government’s share of business taxes and loans.


Where do you come up with this stuff? CNN?

The IRS workforce was reduced by only about 5k people, which amounts to about 2% of the total reduction in government employees since Trump took office.

Overall, since his inauguration, the federal civilian workforce has shrank by about 10%. Now, that's nowhere near as much as it needs to be shrunk, but not bad for a year and a half!

If you're interested in more solid numbers (which I doubt you are since they won't fit your agenda), there were roughly 2.7 million government civil employees when Trump took office. Since then, 278,282 employees have either been let go, resigned, or took early retirement. Source.

So which government departments saw the biggest losses? The one with the biggest decline was the Department of Education (which may be why you're so disgruntled that you're posting misinformation??), followed by USAID, and then the USDA. That's per capita, by the way, not total number of jobs gone. Most all agencies have decreased in size somewhat, though.

Now as anyone who's paid attention to my posts can attest to, when Trump does something I disagree with (such as the topic of this post) I will call him out on it all day. But, I'll also give credit where it is due, and shrinking fed government bloat by 10% IMO is commendable for sure.

I'll also call out people who post blatantly false "facts" without a single source to support their outlandish claims.


Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8610017
Yesterday at 06:33 PM
Yesterday at 06:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
Vinke Offline
trapper
Vinke  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


I'll also call out people who post blatantly false "facts" without a single source to support their outlandish claims.



Looks like the AI is working out well


Ant Man/ Marty 2028

B.C.O.G 1%er…..

Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8610192
Yesterday at 11:40 PM
Yesterday at 11:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
Ohio Wolverine Offline
trapper
Ohio Wolverine  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
yotetrapper30 has a valid point, less government intrusion.
Yet our government controls every facit of our lives.
I'm not saying government should control anything but it's self.
Insider trading along with backing donors to their campaign , has to stop.
Along with they vote themselves raises , and control way too much.
I was referring to deregulation.
It used to be that companies could only work in certain areas that they held rights to.
Much like a mining claim.
Regan started deregulation , and Carter finished it.
I was making over $12.00 an hour in the mid 1970's, deregulation meant companies could no longer own/operate in certain areas.
In other words your mining claim was no longer valid.
Trucking companies were everywhere, many serving the same cities and states.
Then all of a sudden , they couldn't , jobs were lost companies closed, same with the steel mills.
There has to be some control, but it's totally out of hand anymore.
The idea was service industries were the future.
LOL So yotetrapper30 is right , too much government control.
I know we can't be political, but have to point out, we could be finally going in the right direction.
It's going to hurt, same as anything new in our lives, but we can survive and take back our control of the government.
The way it was meant to be in the first place.
When our country was born, it relied on tariffs alone, no taxes on property, just taxes on whisky that was sold over seas.
I could be wrong about that, it's all I remember without looking it up.
And anymore you can't get an answer you can trust.
But it was 1913 when our country stopped tariffs , and went to taxes on income.
Then it was taxes on anything we bought, then it was taxes on anything we owned, and on and on.
I just hope I see it turn around and taxes are no longer.
Funny how roads were built and bridges were built before taxes, isn't it?
People wanted them, and donated to get them built!
That's a strong country, not one that's taxed to death.
JMHO


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Trump Capitalism? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8610220
1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
Corruption is the number one problem today with government. Its the same number one problem government has had since it was invented. No matter the government from tribal to monarchies to dictators to totalitarian to whatever form of government you can name. Some forms of government, like democratic republic make corruption harder to get away with. Since governments are run by us humans corruption will never disappear. No matter the religion or lack there of the individual ascribes to, some humans are more prone to corruption than others.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread