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Re: Destiny...God, or happenstance? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8610656
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Aw shucks...that's a dang sweet story. I knew nothing of that. But there's my point; if not for one thing the other never happens. God, destiny or happenstance. Personally, I'm a firm happenstance believer. But that is the story of us all, in its many creative forms...but Fanny will tell you it was destiny. God leading the way.


Been awhile since I studied 2nd and 3rd causes, but if memory serves me correctly Plato reasoned that in order for those causes to happen, then there would have to be a 1st cause or mover. Later Aristotle which was a student of Plato reasoned that the first mover was a mover that didn't move. Leaning toward the understanding that that mover was God.
Then came Aristotle's student Alexander the Great who reasoned that when we have problems that we can't understand or untangle then go to the Gordian Knot scene and simply take a short cut and whack the problem in half until we find a new end to start with. Out of which comes the idea that cheaters in the end don't win, lol.

And by the way much of the above was in the 400 years of silence between the Testaments so don't be surprised if that beautiful Helen from a thousand years before isn't brought into the time frame. Since we Baptists aren't allowed to poke around in the Apocrypha you never heard this from me, lol.

Re: Destiny...God, or happenstance? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8610675
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I think God knows all before it happens but I don't think He manipulates/controls us.


All our free will as to what happens from choices we make

Re: Destiny...God, or happenstance? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8610700
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People say everything happens for a reason. I sort of agree. Sometimes the reason is that you make stupid choices or someone else does. Sometimes the reason is that you make smart choices or someone else does.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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