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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: beaverpeeler] #8612174
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whatever,just go to the auction at sale time and inspect the lots and talk to the graders.


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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: beaverpeeler] #8612178
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Are we taking into account that the graders are human and most likely do not see everything the same way. What is semi-heavy to one grader may be a heavy to another. I don’t care how much training a grader has or how many years of experience they have, every grader isn’t going to see every pelt the same way.

You take a group of 50 western coyotes and the best 3 coyote graders at FH and I guarantee
the end result will not match exactly!! I am willing to put money on that statement!!!

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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: beaverpeeler] #8612185
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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: beaverpeeler] #8612204
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I remember in one of the last years HE Goldberg was in business the ol' man had hired a Laotian immigrant to help, and finally had him grading as well. I was up there with a pickup load of beaver and Erwin had the new guy grade them. Very distressing to me since I'm certain he wanted to only error on the side that benefited his benefactor. Boy oh boy did he too!


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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: Boco] #8612207
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Boco the grading has changed and it all depends on many factors, back in the day a xxl coon was 30-32 in now 29-32 in is the standard, The sample lot for rats at fha 2 yrs ago I can show you some lg and xl rats mixed in with what should of been xxl and 3xl only for top lot...


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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: wissmiss] #8612248
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Are we taking into account that the graders are human and most likely do not see everything the same way. What is semi-heavy to one grader may be a heavy to another. I don’t care how much training a grader has or how many years of experience they have, every grader isn’t going to see every pelt the same way.

You take a group of 50 western coyotes and the best 3 coyote graders at FH and I guarantee
the end result will not match exactly!! I am willing to put money on that statement!!!

Boco???

Dirt???

Any other arm chair experts???


I never claimed graders or grades don't change. We just discussed last Auction how wolverine went from dark grade to pale? I have also talked to the fur/buyer agent and fha buyer who seem to all come to the same conclusion about Canadian expert ten second graders. It is what it is.


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Re: FHA fur grading [Re: beaverpeeler] #8612253
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It is very easy to spot a pelt that is out of place in a lot.Even a half arsed grader would notice it immediately.
Many pelts are shuffelled around when they are being matched into the final lotting breakdown.
With the advancements in fur dying technology there is no need to break out XXp from XP or even pales if they all take the dye the same and wind up identical after processing.
They will all have the same value to the manufacturer so those different grades could be intersorted and sell under one lot description.
Manufacturers have input to what they want to see.
Beaver hatter market is a good example of different grades with same values/
The lowest grades are not even sectioned let alone broken down by colour or weight etc.

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