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What really is adhd??? #8612140
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I’m seeing more and more kids get labeled as having this and getting put on medication. Read an article not too long ago about it.
If I was a kid today,, they probably would have medicated me too.
I was placed in a learning disability class,, not special education,, just a special class I had to go to to help me better understand classroom stuff.

I had 2 things stacked against me..I did have a hearing impairment that no one knew how bad it was until I was 13…and I was just simply uninterested in certain subjects.
I especially hated math.

I would much rather be out running around the creeks somewhere than being in a stuffy classroom.
And most of the time that’s were my thoughts were..
Until I was in history class, science ( I loved biology) but most everything else was boring.

I did manage to be a c average student…

I just think kids are put on dope today because it’s easier than to change a certain way of making things more interesting for them,,, I dunno.


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612152
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ADHD medicine when we were kids was "go outside and play".

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612154
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ADHD can be a lot of different things to a lot of people

in many ways it is your old survival instincts stuck in a modern world.

your ability to notice motions , patterns , changes

an ability to hyper focus on that one task

but stuck in a modern world where they want the most education out of the fewest dollars and settled on a particular approach to teaching.

and actual ADHD person often learns faster than the teacher could even present it , IF it is their focus.

there is actually a high likelihood that if you did ok in school but not great and are a good trapper , you are ADHD

there are so many types and symptoms not everyone is the same ADHD by far.

I have known since I was 8 , I was on meds till the 8th grade

I just learned to work with it.

that dope , doesn't make thinks more interesting , it slows them down so they fit in with the rest of the class. the ADHD drugs are not downers , they are uppers given to a person who responds backwards , give them a stimulant and they slow down.
this is why mothers would steal from the kids Med supply they could stay up all night on a energy rush cleaning the house and having the energy to do it.







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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612158
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My ex daughter-in-law thought our grandson had it when he was a child when my son took him to the Dr to get checked out the ex was there basically telling the Dr he had it and wanted him on meds guess thr Dr told her on no uncertain terms that he didnt prescribe medicine unless a patient really needed it and the child didnt need it.she was (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) to say the least but didnt pursue it any further.he just got 3 awards Monday night 1 having a 4.0 average for grades putting him on the high honor roll.hes a junior in high school and by the way he's a outstanding athlete as well.sometimes Dr's do know best.

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612161
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Don't know her but maybe she was wanting the prescription. Adderall is an abused drug.

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612162
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I agree with you. There are a ton of kids diagnosed with adhd, I feel like a lot of them are adhd, so many can just not function without medication but that begs the same question, why? I think it’s a combination of things, every kid you see these days has a phone or video game and spends too much time on them. Many can’t even carry on a conversation with you, also everything we eat is so full of chemicals, we will never know the extent of that problem. Seems like doctors want us to be taking medication for any little thing! I’ve been a RN for over 35 yrs, ER and cardiology primarily and I’ll do a lot things before I’ll take cholesterol medication or blood pressure medication. Trust me when I tell you there is a reason we in this country pay several times what the rest of the world pays on healthcare but our outcomes are nowhere tops for most things.

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612165
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having ADHD does not mean you do bad in school , you can absolutely do well in school as an ADHD person

I have 2 kids that are definitely ADHD diagnosed but not medicated and did very well in school high school and college , there was challenges in grade school , once they had the skills they were incredible learners.

my wife took 7 years off work to homeschool them through much of grade school and middle school

my oldest graduated 4th in her high school and Magna cum Laude in college

my youngest has a 4.0 going into their final semester of college.


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612170
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Is ADHD a thing. Yes , they have legitimately done multiple brain scans of people with ADHD vs normal people and it's just a fact our brains work differently in very obvious ways . It's like one of the lobes of the brain is way more active or something dont quote me

Now the big thing is why is it *just now* becoming an issue or talked about more ....well one.. science and new medical deals ( similar with what happened with PTSD )and two the world changed. Back in y'all's days where you had recess , shop classes , played out side all the time ect as the norm , ADHD people just had more outlets to get our/ their fixes persay. Nowdays however when they don't , e eyon wants there kinda to just sit in a desk not move , schools are severely limiting more free thought, hands on stuff like shop classes ect , wellll that's when you start getting problems. There's no outlet. The the kid goes home and mom just wants to sit him in front of a TV or I pad again no outlet. So then these kids start basically going stir crazy and causing issues because in a way they can't do what there programed to.

It's kinda like how you'll see these soccer moms get a working dog like a blue heeler and loose it when it's running around biting and chasing at everyone and everything or it just basically get lethargic and depressed. And no amount of beating or whooping or meds can really fix it past making the things a zombie..Its has no outlet to do what it was born to do . Same goes for people .

And back to the world changing, it's becoming kinda hostile towards alot of folks with ADHD used to be wanting to think for your self, come up with ideas , invent ,work with your hands , wanting to do stuff was really sought after. But now days more and more that's seen more as a problem people want you to just toe the line follow the leader , dont ask questions, be happy don't upset the apple cart. For ADHD people who's brains legit just don't operate like that were seen as an issue and need to be medicated and all that jazz .

I mean if you see someone like me , where I physically have to be building, or modding or asking a million questions or just doing something or I get kinda coo koo that's prime ADHD .

Now a big big big issue is when every slightly overwhelmed mom starts self diagnosing there kids and using it as an excuse.
" O yeah I know little billy cussed out a teacher and is constantly failing classes , but he's got ADHD you know "
And in reality little billy is just a spoiled lil turd who does what he wants because she's a crappy parent. That or what I've seen and what happened with me and the wife some the kid is the polar opposite of the parents, parents don't Wanna really do what the kid does so they go to the doc they get them on some pills to try and make them " normal " or more " manageable" shoot I see it going on with my nephew right now .

Just the two cents from a guy who legitimately clinically diagnosed with it and who's been around the ringer with it


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612198
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As noted by others here, ADHD is a diagnosable executive order disfunction of the brain. I tend to agree with the theory that it is a holdover from more primitive times that was a built in survival mechanism and advantage for hunters which over time became a disadvantage in today's society.
I was diagnosed at 49 years old after self diagnosing and being sent to a specialist for confirmation. People used to joke and tease me about being an ADHD kid, but nobody (parents, teachers, doctors, etc) ever seriously suggested I may actually have had it. Since I was academically high achieving, I think that led people to assume I was just a bit squirrely so nobody really looked into it because there was no problem to solve.
When I first met my wife (30 years in Early Education), she actually asked me if I was on medicine for my ADHD... which I did not think I had LOL. She looked me dead in the eye and said "You absolutely have ADHD, I can't believe nobody ever told you or tried to help." Of course, I thought she was crazy and this was 15 years before I was diagnosed.
I won't get into "why" I self diagnosed, but I can tell you that 25 minutes after taking my first dose of meds my life changed immediately for the better and I wished I had gotten help years ago.
That is not to say there haven't been challenges getting the correct medicine and then getting dosages dialed in but absolutely overall positive outcomes for me.
I managed without help or medicine or a name for what I was dealing with for nearly 5 decades... I would never criticize anyone who chose to tough it out, nor would I criticize someone who decided to ask for help - you have to do what's right for you.
Just know that there is an equally big and equally dishonest money machine behind telling people that certain medicines are bad or that certain disorders are fake as there is pushing positive big-pharma messaging. Nobody is going to advocate for you and your interests as hard as you will... you can't leave it up to others. The research is there.


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612201
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Butt whipping or get outside when we were young lol

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612206
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I have been labeled adhd since I was a kid took meds in elementary school . Quit by middle school

About 12 years ago I went back to the doc about it after a cousin was telling me how incredibly great being able to focuse was for people like us. He described with out to a t and with sounded nice.

The doc prescribed a low RX of Adderall. And it was incredible I could focus, mine was clear and I got so much done. But I built up a tolerance quickly and the rx keep being increased until it got so high he couldn't increase it any more. Since it was no longer working and I did more reading on side effects and it sounded like it was not good for me I stopped taking it. When it worked it was great. If that how other people function without meds they must be incredibly productive. I under stood why I heard collage kids liked to take it before finals to study.



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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612211
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I like having it except for some excessive competitions.
Caffeine is my main drug for treatment.
A tablet is your friend.
Learn to put stuff away even if you are not finished. You might not come back to it for a while.
I genuinely have several projects going at the same time and always thinking about ways to make more money.

I spent the last 7 months cleaning up the farm.
The amount of good and extra/ doubles I found was insane.


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612215
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I just need to clarify that,In no way was my post targeting anyone who absolutely had it,,, my point was that it’s too easy to put a kid on stuff when it might not actually be a pharmaceutical solution.

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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: jalstat] #8612216
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Originally Posted by jalstat
Butt whipping or get outside when we were young lol

This is how my ADHD was treated.

It was a non-medical method of treatment.


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It's an excuse the parents use because they won't bust the kids tail. Don't get me wrong some kids are reflections of their raising. Not learning to mind and sit still at an early age manifest into an alphabet illness. Never heard of it when a mom or dad would back hand you for not minding. We had too much to do around the house to sit around and pray we got a pass for acting up...

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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
ADHD medicine when we were kids was "go outside and play".


OR sit down or I'll bust your _____ !!!

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8612221
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
I just need to clarify that,In no way was my post targeting anyone who absolutely had it,,, my point was that it’s too easy to put a kid on stuff when it might not actually be a pharmaceutical solution.


… oh goodnight foxxkidd nobody thinks you’re targeting them and wouldn’t care if you were

… you crack me up sometimes lol


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Lots of folks make their own ADHD medicine in these parts. Seems to be bad on teeth....
There's real cases that require medicine but often times the sound a belt makes as it's pulled from it's loops is the only cure needed....

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