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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: OhioBoy] #8613257
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
ADHD medicine when we were kids was "go outside and play".

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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8613275
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I was like a lot of folks and thought it was all bull…then I started researching and listening to a lot of podcast of ADULTS that finally got on meds and their lives changed. We held off for about 10 years with CJ and finally went and talked to professionals.
We started CJ on meds last Fall and within 3 weeks we were getting notes and calls from teachers about what’s changed in his life? We didn’t know how to take that or respond until we learned he had went from not paying attention or participating to being the first to raise his hand and knowing most of the answers. His average in Language Arts went from a 69-70 to an 85!!!
Now it did take months to get his meds right and he calls them his “smart” pills. So yeah, meds work and behavioral issues improve along with their attention. Our biggest “fear” was turning him into a zombie and losing the CJ we know and love. That’s where interacting with the professional is key. It doesn’t make a kid lethargic or quiet, it brings out their true potential.

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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8613282
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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8613291
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I have two sisters, not mine, living on both sides of me. they have 2 kids each and are all affected by ADHD, Autism, or both.
The boys on the north of me were screamers and couldn't be calmed down, the father would be outside in winter to 10-11 every night trying to get him to get calm enough to go to sleep...the girls south of me would hit, kick, and bite anyone that they didn't want to listen to, the older one would run around the road with no clothes on., both were feral.

the boys were put on meds when they started school, and they became calm, and pleasant humans, lol
The girls?, no meds, still fighting, screeching, and just miserable little $%!#^

So meds do work,

Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8613296
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"So meds do work"

I live on Coccain and Alcohol for a good many years.


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8613682
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
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In our firearms training classes, we had a girl who suffers from this disorder apparently.

We use laser guns the kind that put a red dot on a target on the wall. This is to help them with sight alignment for live fire on range day. This girl's aim was well off the bullseye. She was right handed. I noticed she kept both eyes open every time she pulled the trigger on the laser gun. I told her she needed to close one eye. She said she couldn't do that. She handed me the gun and said it was scary.

Last night on the written test she had 17 wrong answers out of 50 multiple choice questions which is a failing grade. They must pass the written test to qualify for range day with live ammo. She failed the entire class which was unfortunate, but a good thing.


that doesn't sound like ADHD at all that sounds like that is more of a cross dominance in the eyes or weak dominance in the eye , possibly some other thing like dyslexia on the reading portion or she just didn't want to be there.

a true ADHD person or ADD if we use the older term is very likely to take to a training they want to be at so well they are your best student. they naturally excel at nearly anything they are putting their mind to specifically hands on. they will typically put in twice the effort of the as they call them neurotypical.


I think your first sentence is correct in that she just didn't want to be there.

On range day another girl shot with a decent group, but they were all to the right and high. She was shooting right handed. At first I thought maybe it was the rifle. In class we always do the test to see which is their dominant eye. She said she was left eye dominant. I gave her a left handed 22 to try shooting left handed. She had a nice group with 4 bullseyes out of 10 shots from the sitting and prone positions.


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: Providence Farm] #8613684
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Trapper7
In our firearms training classes, we had a girl who suffers from this disorder apparently.

We use laser guns the kind that put a red dot on a target on the wall. This is to help them with sight alignment for live fire on range day. This girl's aim was well off the bullseye. She was right handed. I noticed she kept both eyes open every time she pulled the trigger on the laser gun. I told her she needed to close one eye. She said she couldn't do that. She handed me the gun and said it was scary.

Last night on the written test she had 17 wrong answers out of 50 multiple choice questions which is a failing grade. They must pass the written test to qualify for range day with live ammo. She failed the entire class which was unfortunate, but a good thing.


I will have to disagree with you and believe its a hindrance to close an eye to shoot. It limits what I can see and I have no problem seeing open sights or optics with both eyes open. I guess maybe in some cases people's dominant eye may not be as dominant and need to close an eye to focus but since I never have and typically always was in the top if not the top of friendly shooting competitions it absolutely never made since to me whan I see people shoot closing an eye. Unless it was trying to correct a cross dominant shooter.

Sounds more like to me no one checked to see what eye was hee dominant eye and if they did they got.it wrong. The coach on my sons old archer team convinced my wife my son needed to shoot left handed he got it wrong. But I was always at work and didnt hear about it tell after left handed bow was ordered. Then he had been shooting a bow left handed a while and it was a challenge to correct.

We always check which is their dominant eye in class before they ever get to the range. She was right eye dominant. Since they all wear shooting glasses, we thought about taping a piece of paper in the left lens so she would be shooting only with her right eye. As I said, she failed the class getting 17 wrong out of 50 multiple questions. One some of the questions, instead of marking one of the answers as a guess, she wrote, "I don't know".


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Re: What really is adhd??? [Re: foxkidd44] #8613704
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if you want to do taping of the safety glasses stand with your back down range , have her lay the gun on your shoulder and look at the target , then you move a peice of clear scotch tape so that she can no longer see anything but a blur from that eye when she looks down the sights , it forces the eye behind the sight to take over without effecting peripheral vision. a little square of tape is all that is needed.


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