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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8614916
05/21/26 04:04 PM
05/21/26 04:04 PM
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W NY
Turtledale
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W NY
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Im GLAD I quit smoking tobacco 22 years ago Why has smoking been demonized by the general public but somehow, alcohol and getting drunk is acceptable?
I do see drinking as acceptable and always have, not having lived through prohibition. Ive never seen getting drunk as acceptable in our society
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8614928
05/21/26 04:26 PM
05/21/26 04:26 PM
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Central Pa. 65
bic
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"Mr. Sensitivity"
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Central Pa. 65
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I know smoking isnt healthy and therefore frowned upon. I get that. About 480k people in the USA die from smoke related causes annually. But somehow, it's culturally acceptable to be overweight. Fat shaming people is considered insensitive but over 300k people in the USA die annually from complications of being overweight. So I ask, Why aren't overweight people shunned the same as smokers?
Just because you CAN Doesn't mean you SHOULD!
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8614934
05/21/26 04:36 PM
05/21/26 04:36 PM
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New Hampshire
Nessmuck
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New Hampshire
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They are bic...they have to buy 2 seats on a plane...lol
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8614940
05/21/26 04:49 PM
05/21/26 04:49 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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I know smoking isnt healthy and therefore frowned upon. I get that. About 480k people in the USA die from smoke related causes annually. But somehow, it's culturally acceptable to be overweight. Fat shaming people is considered insensitive but over 300k people in the USA die annually from complications of being overweight. So I ask, Why aren't overweight people shunned the same as smokers? because your number is low more like 110 million people are over weight while I haven't ever quit smoking , losing weight isn't easy and you have to eat food , you just have to figure out how much is the right amount. things are made to be cheap and taste good , cheep stuff is generally heavy on carb calories , good for you stuff like meat and veg are the highest priced foods. the cigarette manufacturers got out of smokes and into food big time in the 80s and 90s , they have since sold but they applied the same marketing to foods and engineered them to be addictive as well. Kraft, Oscar Meier , coolaid , jello , ritz ,chips a hoy , Oreo to name a few
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8614996
05/21/26 06:49 PM
05/21/26 06:49 PM
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ny
upstateNY
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ny
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Why has smoking been demonized by the general public but somehow, alcohol and getting drunk is acceptable?
You forgot smoking dope is OK now also,,,but smoking regular stuff is THE DEVIL. 
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
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Re: Why?
[Re: Gary Benson]
#8615001
05/21/26 07:05 PM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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You can buy tobacco and smoke. You can buy alcohol and drink. Tobacco smoke affects others around you. Drinking doesnt affect a person next to you. Theres a place for everything. That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a long time. You gotta be on friggin crack if you think a drinker doesn’t effect the persons beside them……lol I used to be that guy. Have you ever been anywhere sober when there’s drinkers around? Or I’m guessing you’re “that guy”…….lol
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8615019
05/21/26 07:27 PM
05/21/26 07:27 PM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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Let’s see if any LEOs chime in about smoking vs booze. One beer isn’t bad, or 6 American beers I guess.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Why?
[Re: Shakeyjake]
#8615043
05/21/26 08:03 PM
05/21/26 08:03 PM
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east central WI
Dirty D
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east central WI
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That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a long time. You gotta be on friggin crack if you think a drinker doesn’t effect the persons beside them……lol I used to be that guy. Have you ever been anywhere sober when there’s drinkers around? Or I’m guessing you’re “that guy”…….lol
I'm in WI, we are no slouches when it comes to booze consumption. When I go out to eat I'd bet that at least 80% are drinking some type of alcohol. I'm always sober. the drinkers around me are always well behaved. I haven't seen a disruptive drunk in I don't know how long. When I was young and stupid I saw alot of what you mention, but now I hang in place with mostly older people you don't see it.
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8615073
05/21/26 08:45 PM
05/21/26 08:45 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
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Dirty D , Wisconsin is just a different place , you could go into the local place and be sitting on a stool next to your grade school teacher and buy them a beer and have a good talk about back in the day. and that is when you are 23.
my son's old Sunday school teacher owns the bar with the best food in town so at 22 he is getting served by his old Sunday school teacher and it is totally normal.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8615074
05/21/26 08:55 PM
05/21/26 08:55 PM
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Alaska and Washington State
waggler
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Alaska and Washington State
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Ask that question back when smoking was allowed on the major airlines. Smokers seem oblivious as to how obnoxious tabacco smoke is; especially in confined places. On the other hand, a whiff of a Camel straight while outside is a different story.
"My life is better than your vacation"
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8615134
05/21/26 11:46 PM
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Indiana
Providence Farm
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I sure dont miss the stink of smoke and ash trays everywhere like it used to be. Smokers dont realize how bad they stink. There is a guy in matanance here at work that smells like stale smoke so bad i cant stand being in the booth for 2 hours after he walks in for 5 mins and leaves. After he gets in my equipment the equipment smells horrible most of the day.
They are nose blind to it. It changes their voice and they sure do age and get more wrinkles than non smokers. I have no idea why anyone would chose to do that to themselves.
Last edited by Providence Farm; 05/21/26 11:47 PM.
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Re: Why?
[Re: lumberjack391]
#8615138
05/22/26 12:01 AM
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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Oakland, MS
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How is it that some get away with smoking and some dont? Has to be some kind of resistance factor if we could only figure that out. I know you will die quicker smoking but that minority must have something going for them. Yep... my great-grandmother smoked until about 10 years before her death. She died in her 90s. My grandmother still smokes... she is 86. And neither of them have/had any lung/breathing and/or heart problems whatsoever.
Proud Leader of Moosetrot's Squad
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8615160
05/22/26 06:29 AM
05/22/26 06:29 AM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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I know most of you youngsters don’t remember this…. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2026/05/full-56418-293548-img_1282.jpeg) I know most on here hated the old time doctors. You follow the recommendations and science of today’s doctors & CDC. When I was a kid, everyone smoked everywhere, most of you are too young to remember that eh?…….lol
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Why?
[Re: bic]
#8615162
05/22/26 06:38 AM
05/22/26 06:38 AM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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williamsburg ks
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I miss being able to smoke anywhere I felt like it. No seat belts, kids in a pickup bed. Keeping your word was important. Signs were not in Mexican and a pocketknife wasn't a weapon.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Why?
[Re: danny clifton]
#8615165
05/22/26 06:44 AM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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I miss being able to smoke anywhere I felt like it. No seat belts, kids in a pickup bed. Keeping your word was important. Signs were not in Mexican and a pocketknife wasn't a weapon. That’s why Vegas felt so weird. The first day or two, I kept my smoking on the down low thinking security would boot me out or something…..lol
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Why?
[Re: Gary Benson]
#8617068
05/26/26 03:07 PM
05/26/26 03:07 PM
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St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
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St. Louis Co, Mo
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Drinking doesnt affect a person next to you. Till you get in a car and kill someone!
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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