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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615092
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I have a significant investment in a large company that builds data centers and a couple of speculative companies that build/fuel nuclear energy production facilities. Like it or not, it's the future. If we lose the the AI race, y'all are gonna have to learn Mandarin. You will not like it, I'm guessing.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: Lugnut] #8615097
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Thanks for the articles White. The Three Mile Island article was particularly interesting.l It sounds like Microsoft is forking over big bucks to help get Reactor Two back up and running but Gov. Shapiro is involved and "helping" and that almost certainly means taxpayer money will be thrown at the project as well as sweetheart deals ( long-term tax cuts).

Also, I didn't read anything in any of the articles that pointed to data center companies building on site generation plants. Bloom Energy and Siemens Energy wishes they would but didn't mention any takers. I suppose it might be a contract violation to disclose that information though.


Musk built onsite generation. And of course the Karen's got the their knickers in a wad and got the government involved in regulating it to death. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615103
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I talked with a guy that is over the DATA center construction in upstate South Carolina. I don't remember how many, but he stated they are installing their own LNG turbines. Several are manufactured by the company I work for (GEV). He said they will not be using public power, nor selling back to the local utilities. Around here I believe the biggest concern is the noise. People say there is a constant humming noise?


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615126
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Do they recycle and then cool the water ? The water is what is IMPORTANT


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615129
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I like bidding the roofs.
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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615130
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CAT (caterpillar) stock has gone nuts. Look at the chart, I bought in around 2012 for around $175 if I recall.

They’re building something, somewhere, and ALOT

Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615137
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It's not just CAT by any means. In no particular order look at the one year charts of: AMD, AMAT, GOOG, ASML, VRT, AAPL, TSM, LLY, GEV, TXN, SNDK, MU, WDC, and I am tired of typing examples but there are plenty more. Whole market's "gone nuts", lol.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: JoMiBru] #8615139
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Originally Posted by JoMiBru
CAT (caterpillar) stock has gone nuts. Look at the chart, I bought in around 2012 for around $175 if I recall.

They’re building something, somewhere, and ALOT


Lots of back up generators for data centers

Re: Data Centers [Re: yotetrapper30] #8615163
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Lugnut
Thanks for the articles White. The Three Mile Island article was particularly interesting.l It sounds like Microsoft is forking over big bucks to help get Reactor Two back up and running but Gov. Shapiro is involved and "helping" and that almost certainly means taxpayer money will be thrown at the project as well as sweetheart deals ( long-term tax cuts).

Also, I didn't read anything in any of the articles that pointed to data center companies building on site generation plants. Bloom Energy and Siemens Energy wishes they would but didn't mention any takers. I suppose it might be a contract violation to disclose that information though.


Musk built onsite generation. And of course the Karen's got the their knickers in a wad and got the government involved in regulating it to death. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis


Interesting article, thanks yote. Their begging for money due to a seemingly severe case of TDS was off-putting, but the article was informative and interesting nonetheless. One bit of information not present was whether or not transmission lines were built into the Colossus sites so excess energy could be sold back to the local utility.


Eh...wot?

Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615182
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I doubt very many are as tech ignorant as me. I did make money hauling rock to one being built in Smithville MO. It's about 200 miles east of the one talked about near St Louis. I guess whatever the purpose is it will take a bunch of them. The one near Smithville is actually two separate sites. At least a couple sections.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: Lugnut] #8615183
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Originally Posted by Lugnut


Interesting article, thanks yote. Their begging for money due to a seemingly severe case of TDS was off-putting, but the article was informative and interesting nonetheless. One bit of information not present was whether or not transmission lines were built into the Colossus sites so excess energy could be sold back to the local utility.


Yeah, about impossible to find unbiased news sources these days. This article has some bias as well but a bit more info about it. https://i10x.ai/news/xai-colossus-2-supercomputer-private-power-island?utm_source=copilot.com Colossus 2 is only about an hour north of me. As far as I can tell, Musk is not selling any energy back to the utilities. I think at this point they are still consuming more than they produce.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615184
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supposed to be one going in a town away from here


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Re: Data Centers [Re: Lugnut] #8615186
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Also the Government wants to put them on federal lands. If that happens it will ruin the beauty of America and affect tons of wildlife.

Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615190
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One of my big questions is…….do we really NEED as many as they are trying to push through? Currently things seem to operate pretty smoothly in my opinion, in many cases TOO smooth and I frankly wish we could take a few steps back. There’s no denying it “creates jobs” or whatever label you wanna use. My brother is working 14 hrs/day right now helping build one.

Outlaw99, I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this and have already gotten screwed in the past. Keep up the good fight!

One side says “they use X amount of power and it’s too much” then the other side says “oh it’s not nearly that much and will have no effect”. It drives me crazy because you know they’re BOTH lieing!!

I’m on the fence (like many issues) and think we need both sides to be honest, ask the hard questions, and come to a common sense agreement. In short, I think slowing the process is a good thing to get a more informed decision and hopefully “better” overall outcome for everyone involved. Happy trapping! ScottW

Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615201
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Main opposition is from they don’t want to pay their fair share to their profits. They want to be paid to create a few JOBS. As they are now having a hard time making unfair deals they go to corrupting local government into selling out their voters.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615212
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
$15 Billion one with Google flag name going in just west of St. Louis in rural Montgomery County, MO. Lots of municipality and counties fighting them tooth and nail. What about your area?

The original draft of the Big Beautiful Bill had a provision in it that had a 10 year regulation block allowing these data centers to circumvent any federal, state, or local planning and zoning ordinances. Thankfully there were a few congressmen that got it removed before passing. Otherwise a lot of towns would have been run over by developers.

They may create jobs for the construction phase, but once they are complete they will mostly be run by computers.

ol' dad


New Florence and Warrenton Mo data centers are done deals, and construction has begun. It has created work for us, in increasing the capacity of the electrical grid. The area being graded at New Florence is approximately 2 square miles. I can’t see the site too well at Warrenton, but there is a lot of earthwork going on now.
At the New Florence location, well drilling has been done already, with depths of 1200’!
For me, these areas along with the thousands of acres of solar panels, replacing crop ground, is quite sickening!


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615227
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Ironically just had another land brokerage firm call and leave a message yesterday. I tried calling back but no answer. When/if they do call back they’re gonna get an ear full. They’re on the same level as ambulance chasers at this point. No tact, no protocol. Just a race like it’s an open land grab and all these middle men want to be the first to get their dirty hands in it. I wish they’d have the fortitude to come stop by in person instead of hiding behind a phone and txt messages. I’d get a whole lot more satisfaction dealing with these worms face to face.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615229
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Another example of state bureaucracy tramping over local objections.

solar farm

We'll see what the next shoe brings. There isn't a need for more electrical output in the area yet.

In regard to data centers making their own power ... regardless of how they generate that power, the infrastructure for delivering and storing fuel to the powerplants still has to be developed, even with micro- nuclear plants.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615240
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Easy to make over $100 an hour on overtime plus benefits at the Cedar Rapids Iowa data centers right now. The big money pay is just getting started. If anybody wants to learn or knows anything about electrical, now is the opportunity to get paid well. The unfilled calls are being filled by illegals because the citizens are taking the pay. Not just electrical, the other trades are having the same problem.

Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615268
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I just seen on the news this morning that a county in Nebraska just banned data centers from being able to come in for a least one year. Probably more areas will do the same.

https://panhandle.newschannelnebras...nters-for-up-to-a-year-more-could-follow

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