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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: Boco]
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Tarriffs are a tax on the consumer. Same end result as a VAT or a GST,only a much sneakier way of doing it. In a way, true, just remember the other country is employing more people than yours. And the government still gets a cut.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: Ohio Wolverine]
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I know you don't like unions, and I totally agree with you. At the beginning they were a good thing. But corruption and greed took them over. Why do you really think JFK and RFK were killed? Who actually controls the unions? The drug traffic? Who really controls the major sports teams? How much money does the government get from them? Taxes on it all.
Oh gosh, stop before you get Savell in here asking questions like that LOL I can't do this anymore, OW, you're getting too goofy. "Please explain why it's so? If other countries can survive on a lower income, why can't our country?" Do you really want to live like the people in China and Vietnam live, just so we can have more jobs? Jobs that pay $5/hr? No thanks lol.
It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle -- N. Schwarzkopf
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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11 hours ago
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I know you don't like unions, and I totally agree with you. At the beginning they were a good thing. But corruption and greed took them over. Why do you really think JFK and RFK were killed? Who actually controls the unions? The drug traffic? Who really controls the major sports teams? How much money does the government get from them? Taxes on it all.
Oh gosh, stop before you get Savell in here asking questions like that LOL I can't do this anymore, OW, you're getting too goofy. "Please explain why it's so? If other countries can survive on a lower income, why can't our country?" Do you really want to live like the people in China and Vietnam live, just so we can have more jobs? Jobs that pay $5/hr? No thanks lol. Over your head? Not the point, it's inflation that makes a difference. LOL if you can live good on 10 cents a day, in the old days, what got it to over $100 a day isn't enough? Who benefits ? The people collecting the taxes.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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11 hours ago
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Nothing you wrote is over my head, lol.
Inflation is definitely a huge issue as well. But it's surely not the ONLY reason for a higher cost of living. But, that's kinda on to a whole different topic, and I'm tired. Goodnight.
It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle -- N. Schwarzkopf
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Who benefits from inflation??? The people closest to the printer,,, It’s called the “Cantillon effect” ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2026/05/full-20026-293818-img_3256.jpeg)
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Are some still trying to figure out what a tariff is? How long has this been asked? ........since Trump got in. Actually, I shouldn't say "asked", some are talking like it's the best thing ever and are sticking it to the other countries.....lol. If you really love your country, then why don't you support it? And when I say "you" I'm not referring to anyone in particular........lol There's not too many things we can buy today without throwing China some $$.
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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OB, I don't know if you're talking to OW or me (because neither of us match the description of what you said) but I'm not gonna bother replying to you if you didn't read what I already wrote that would likely answer yours questions.
It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle -- N. Schwarzkopf
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Sorry I think I dyslexiaed this backwards and read it the other way around and thought you were bashing tarriffs. Before my coffee I guess.
Sure. I can answer this one. Yes, we went to income tax instead of tariffs. Why? Because the liberals wanted to stick it to rich, the same as always.
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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No I am against tariffs for the most part (they have a place at times). I support free trade. I was not complaining about buying things from overseas. I was trying to explain to OW why so much manufacturing has moved overseas.
It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle -- N. Schwarzkopf
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
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It has been proven over and over again in other countries thet the 3 things you need to support an economic tiger are low corporate tax rates a highly educated work force and membership in a large trading block (free trade agreements). I think America is lacking badly in two of those three requirements.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Trump Capitalism?
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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OK, let's try this: Hop Sing, in a poor region of China lives in a second-hand tent, just as his parents and grandparents did before him. They had to grow their own rice and caught rats for their protein needs. Hop Sing, on the other hand, got a job at a cloth manufacturer, and was suddenly making 10 cents an hour. Eureka! He feels as if he struck gold and can now afford a slice of water buffalo every now and then. He can also afford a can of paraffin for his canvas tent, so no more leaks from his "roof". In his little world, he is indeed now living a cut above how his relative are living, and that is his World View. Then we have American Joe Blow, whose grandparents started out as sharecroppers. They had no electricity or running water but lived in a wooden house with a tin roof. They had all the potatoes and wheat they could ever use, an old tractor, a few hogs and a flock of chickens. By the time Joe was born, his parents had bought the farm from the original owner, borrowed money for a new tractor, had buyers for their potatoes and wheat, and branched out into cattle. Joe was born right into an operating, profitable farm! But Joe also had opportunity and decided that the USA was brimming with potential and he could actually become darn-near anything he wanted! He was fascinated with the fancy tractor his folks had but didn't want to be a farmer like his kin so instead went to a trade school and learned everything he could about tractors. Upon graduation he was offered several jobs, and after careful consideration decided to work as a mechanic for Deere. Joe Blow now supports a family with his $40.00 per hour job that includes a health care plan and a 401K. Hop Sing had no such opportunity. So, when someone starts complaining and wondering how folks in China, (or where-ever), can get along fine on a dollar a day, you might explain just how wrong they are.
Just doing what I want now.
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