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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/05/26 10:06 PM
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1x4 is fine on shallow pitched roofs, anything above a 6/12 with steel I prefer the 2x’s. No steel manufacturer will warranty their product if applied directly on asphalt shingles…. At least not here, it is clearly stated in all of their literature. Do what you want, don’t try and get an insurance to help out.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/05/26 10:31 PM
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I ain't buying it. Taylor metal product, a major player does.
Taylor Metal Products StreamLineTM Standing Seam roofing products can be installed for either new or re-roofing applications. We recommend installing the StreamLine™ Standing Seam over a rigid continuous substrate such as plywood sheathing or decking. We recommend that the plywood be 15/32" or thicker or 22 ga metal deck. For best results the substrate should be smooth, flat and free of debris. Cover the entire roof area with 30 lb. ASTM rated felt paper. Apply the felt by rolling it out horizontally across the roof starting at the eave. Allow a 3" overlap for each course. Lap end joints 6". Maintain the rule of keeping uphill courses lapped on top of downhill courses of felt. Tears and cuts should be replaced with new felt or repaired with roofing lap cement. To prevent bonding between the copper and roofing felt, a layer of smooth building paper or a rosin sized slip sheet should be laid over the felt before installing the copper roofing. Ventilation Proper ventilation is necessary for full roof life. Check local codes for venting requirements. To provide for ridge and/or hip ventilation, remove (for retrofit) or leave out (for new construction) 2" of sheathing on both sides of the ridge center. Cover opening with flyscreen and secure the flyscreen with staples. Apply felt paper up to the edge of opening as explained in “Underlayment" section. Taylor Metal Products recommends allowing ventilation between the outer roof deck and the insulation. Lack of ventilation may trap moisture. The rib of the panel is not a source of ventilation for the area beneath the roofing panels. Re-Roofing The StreamLineTM Standing Seam can be installed with felt over most existing asphalt, composition, fiberglass shingles or rolled roofing. Tile, gravel, wood shingles/shake,metal or any other type of roofing material should be removed to the bare sheathing. Inspect the substrate for damage or rot and replace sheathing as necessary. Apply the underlayment as described above. Consider the following when installing the metal roofing over existing roofing materials: • Building Codes: Local building codes will typically limit the number of layers of roofing allowed. Check with your agency. • Solid Fastening: Check the condition of the substrate. Damaged or rotted plywood or decking will not provide for secure fastening. Repair or replace damaged or rotted substrates. • Appearance: Irregular substrates may affect the overall appearance of the metal roofing product. Panel deformation may occur, however, product integrity will not be affected. • Roof surface: Any warped or loose shingles must be nailed down along with any protruding nail heads. Remove all moss and other debris, including existing starter strips. Cut off all overhanging shingles and remove hip and ridge caps. • Ventilation: Trapped moisture can cause premature failure of the metal roofing product as well as substrate, insulation etc. Provide adequate ventilation and appropriate moisture protection. Insulation Check with your design professional or insulation consultant for applications or design details. Also check local building codes to ensure compliance. Touch-Up Paint Most of the time touch-up paint is supplied in spray cans. Spray cans are useful for painting large areas such as downspouts, pipe flashings, and other pre- existing areas. Scratches and scuffs in the finish should be touched-up but not sprayed. The paint should be well mixed and sprayed into a small container, then applied to scratches with a very fine brush or toothpick,just filling in the scratch. If the area is sprayed over, the differences in the chemical makeup will likely cause the touch-up paint to fade differently than the baked-on finish and cause a blotchy appearance over time. Paint paint pens are offered in most Kynar® colors and work best for covering minor scratches, please inquire for color options. Paint pens not available for ArmorTech™ panels.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/05/26 11:11 PM
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Wow!!! Some interesting details on this application. I have some research to do. Seems it would be a cleaner and better finished product with tear off. I will consider all options and ma go back to shingles. Thanks
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/05/26 11:23 PM
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Wow!!! Some interesting details on this application. I have some research to do. Seems it would be a cleaner and better finished product with tear off. I will consider all options and ma go back to shingles. Thanks Will project management for beer.... (And a drive around)
Ant Man/ Marty 2028
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: Vinke]
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06/06/26 06:46 AM
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Only reason I can think of for a 2 x 4 purlin is if you were going to use snow guards. Most manufactures want a 1.5" screw for their guards.
Not much experience with quality snow guard. I assume you could ancor in the truss. I mistake roofer make most often in heavy snow areas is not installing a snow guard, of some sort, behind abs soil stacks. You could but 16" & 24" centers don't usually hold out for snow guard spacing. At least one manufacturer I use (SnoBlox/SnoJax) offers a glue that I have used in the past with no call-backs so far. The glue reaches 1,500-2,000 psi tensile strength after a 28 day curing time. That's about 2/3 the strength of a mechanically fastened snow guard.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/06/26 07:42 AM
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What is the species and grade stamp of these 1x4s? Over here Hem Fir are the best I know.
Like Lug said, matching the layout of metal vs rafters vs snow guards is a major brain cell tax.
If the tear off is too much work, I'd say good bye.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/06/26 07:50 AM
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And, if the homeowner insists on "running the job", an experienced contractor will tell him good bye.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
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06/06/26 08:10 AM
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Eastern States Lynx is popular here. And they do answer the phone.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/06/26 08:59 AM
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I had my house stripped to the 1" x 6 " sheathing before installing metal. I did not want the two layers of asphalt shingles being a heat sink under the new metal roof.
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
[Re: snowy]
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06/06/26 06:13 PM
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pro tip: The fasteners that hold any typeof purlin or nailer driven through asphalt shingles are vulnerable too.
What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded. Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Question for the roofers and construction crew
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06/06/26 06:20 PM
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pro tip: The fasteners that hold any typeof purlin or nailer driven through asphalt shingles are vulnerable too. How are he shingles nail not affected then.?
Ant Man/ Marty 2028
Quote of the week ,,,,,,, "he looks simple".
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