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If you guys have evidence of his anti hunting, share it. But won't change the fact he educated a many of young outdoorsman growing up and wanting to know animals habits and environment.
and in at least one show, he indoctrinated youngsters against trapping.
I watched him every week. Scenes might have been staged but the animals were real. You think those clint eastwood scenes were staged? John wayne? Heck I but chuck norris movies even had staged scenes... But people love them..
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But, everyone knew the Eastwood, Wayne, and Morris movies were all fiction. Not so with Stouffer's films. He passed them off as non-fiction.
Got a photo from a speeding camera in the mail. I immediately sent it back - way too expensive and really poor quality.
Re: Marty Stouffer
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The VCR was my friend in teaching high school biology and I would record many different programs off the cable and show snippets from them to strengthen the lesson. Even Wild America. Yea, he was an anti, but there was film footage in these shows that couldn't be beat by most other programs at the time. White Marlin, in my first semester Wildlife class (juniors & seniors) I included a three week trapping unit that culminated in 3-4 dozen students in a private marsh with two stoplosses and a #110 bodygrip apiece for one night. Muskrats were taken back to the classroom, hung to dry for a day, then put up on 'rat boards I had clamped to each station. 'Rats were sold to fund the trip. Last day of this unit I played Marty's anti-trap video. You would have been pleased with their reactions.
One of my favorite Marty Stauffer programs was near the tail end of his show on Weasels Part I. I used this short segment early first quarter in 10th grade biology in the predator/prey subunit. Run this out to 23:40 and play to see what they saw. Always interesting to hear students' reaction.
I have a couple of long time friends who are (semi) retired wildlife photographers and film makers. For years they shot footage and sold to Marty Stouffer Productions, so they knew him personally. I can't tell you how many baby animals I have given them to raise ( and of course film ) in the last 30 years. Coyote, fox, skunk, raccoon . . . the list goes on and on. I am someone who has access to wildlife after all. Is filming a hand raised animal in it's natural environment considered 'staging' ? Depends on how you look at it !
Regardless, it is how a lot of it is done. And done by the best of them. You wouldn't get the footage otherwise. It is entertainment after all and that is what they are selling : Entertainment ! Never forget that 98% of the population does not have contact with wildllfe the way a hunter and trapper does. And that ! , my friends, is who is the audience of shows like Wild America.
Marty Stouffer doesn't care that you, a hunter and / or trapper doesn't like his views, his show or him. He selling entertaiment. And that gives that 98% of the population a chance to view animals up close and personal. You do whatever it takes to get 'the shot' .
Now did he STATE this is all natural footage. Not sure I've ever seen that in print. Overall the footage is outstanding , induced or otherwise.
I mean, wasn't it film maker (and trapper) TOM MIRANDA who said of old westerns : 'The cowboys didn't really shoot the Indians . . .yeah, I believe it was.
Every great story is better with a little embellishment
Definitely lost its appeal when I found out it was staged. No different than shooting a 200" buck in a high fence compared to the excitement and achievement of killing a wild one that big.
I have a couple of long time friends who are (semi) retired wildlife photographers and film makers. For years they shot footage and sold to Marty Stouffer Productions, so they knew him personally. I can't tell you how many baby animals I have given them to raise ( and of course film ) in the last 30 years. Coyote, fox, skunk, raccoon . . . the list goes on and on. I am someone who has access to wildlife after all. Is filming a hand raised animal in it's natural environment considered 'staging' ? Depends on how you look at it !
Regardless, it is how a lot of it is done. And done by the best of them. You wouldn't get the footage otherwise. It is entertainment after all and that is what they are selling : Entertainment ! Never forget that 98% of the population does not have contact with wildllfe the way a hunter and trapper does. And that ! , my friends, is who is the audience of shows like Wild America.
Marty Stouffer doesn't care that you, a hunter and / or trapper doesn't like his views, his show or him. He selling entertaiment. And that gives that 98% of the population a chance to view animals up close and personal. You do whatever it takes to get 'the shot' .
Now did he STATE this is all natural footage. Not sure I've ever seen that in print. Overall the footage is outstanding , induced or otherwise.
I mean, wasn't it film maker (and trapper) TOM MIRANDA who said of old westerns : 'The cowboys didn't really shoot the Indians . . .yeah, I believe it was.
Every great story is better with a little embellishment
… when I was a kid … Marty stoufer touched me in places I wasn’t comfortable with
**** in other news,,, trapperman personality “ savell” is facing lawsuit from Marty Stouffer productions. From incidents that Mr stouffer denies..stouffer claims staged fabrications,, because he has a extensive knowledge of this practice ****
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Definitely lost its appeal when I found out it was staged.
No different than shooting a 200" buck in a high fence compared to the excitement and achievement of killing a wild one that big.
Yes sir, I felt the same way about professional wrestling . . . and Santa Claus.
In regards to the latter part of your statement. Many of the deer hunting shows by big name professional hunters were shot inside a high fence area. It's known. Along that line, there are also some trapping videos that were also staged. Seldom spoken out loud . . .but a number of people know it
Definitely lost its appeal when I found out it was staged.
No different than shooting a 200" buck in a high fence compared to the excitement and achievement of killing a wild one that big.
Yes sir, I felt the same way about professional wrestling . . . and Santa Claus.
In regards to the latter part of your statement. Many of the deer hunting shows by big name professional hunters were shot inside a high fence area. It's known. Along that line, there are also some trapping videos that were also staged. Seldom spoken out loud . . .but a number of people know it
If there's $ to be made there's always those that will take the shortcut to make it including but not limited to deception
… absolutely…. All the time … big money .. I hate it
I dont like it either and sure dont have much respect for those who do it but part of me wishes more would do it and maybe lessen the pressure on getting places to hunt for those who want the real challenge
